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I like Homicide's commentary

Recharge is Perth so I don't like him

I find Redhage hard to listen to for any longer than about 10 seconds, knowledgeable or not.

I thought Redhage did well, personally. The cross to him during Countdown was absolute garbage and he wasn't great in the pre-game and halftime segments, but during the game itself I enjoyed his work.

Yeah, his delivery is lacking, but he at least knows what he's talking about. Easily the best Perth-based color guy since John Gardiner.

Must say I'm extremely surprised by the consensus reaction in this thread. Presumably we all have a common interest in seeing basketball grow in this country. And if it does, it will be on the back of guys like homicide and his daddy LK, not john fkn casey. Honestly, john Casey is "cute" at best but dude won't be the reason 8-16 year olds are picking a ball up.

Anon few posts up spoke the truth - homicide is a LK appointment through and through and his sole purpose is to increase the exposure of the league. See -
recurring appearance from homicide on weds nights 'bill and boz show' where he plugged LK and his insta numerous times, post game interview with cotton, plugging his gram too, face of nbl fantasy.

I say all this despite being in complete agreement with you haters that his commentary is 'amateurish.' Sure, but if you can't see past that to appreciate the broader strategy at play, you guys deserve for the NBL to remain as shit as it has been these past 10 or so years. So the next time Homicide says something to offend the stat geeks amongst you, maybe just have a laugh at his poor grammar and phrasing then move on to enjoying the games. Which, by the way, have been great in this first round.

Thankfully John Casey was leading tonight because flanking him tonight were two pieces of crap from polar opposites of the personality spectrum.

The interview with cotton at half time where he had to start by saying that he was a former Mvp was sickening, I'll put with all the othe,r commentators but I wish homicide would go back to New York.

I think it goes beyond research or caring about the league - I just think Homicide is not particularly intelligent overall. He probably went through his basketball career on his natural instincts but doesn't have the analytical capacity to talk too deeply about it, outside of "dudes from the west coast shoot jump shots," or whatever it was he said.

But having said that I think he could have a role in the broadcast but they've just put him in the wrong one. He should be something of a hype man and do sideline interviews with fans and sometimes coaches (it was hilarious to see him go straight to the Robert's issue with Joey in the socially oblivious way that he did). I also like his Ladbrokes ad. In a role like that he might thrive.

I can see what they're trying to do with Homicide, and maybe with some tinkering they'll find a spot for him, but I hope they're not married to the idea of him as an actual commentator because he isn't cut out for that.

When he said "Hodgson you need to stay in your lane and stick to the mid range jumper instead of going to the basket"

The only thing more over the top than this clown is KR's $289 remote :)

It's a slap in the face to his colleagues and the fans of the league when he doesn't even pretend to know about the league. It's like a giant "f**k you" to us all.

He needs to do courtside and half time interviews only.

Very amateurish.

Bad Santa knows hoops!!

Yeah but Homicide has a connection from LA that tells him Casper Ware is legit.

I have high expectations of commentators, they include knowing the 10 best players in the league.

I think he would be fine in small doses interviewing coaches/celebrities during the game.

He has had plenty of opportunities in the commentary box and he simply isn't good at the job and hasn't put the in work to improve.

Appreciate his journey and then u get where he is coming from and why he says what he says.

On one hand, yes he should know more about the league. If a player was in it last season or who was the Grand Final MVP and who dropped 45.

He should have been briefed. Maybe he was.

On the other hand, much like the casual viewer, he's discovering things as it unfolds and that is interesting.

"oh Cotton dropped 45? Gleeson letting the imports play now"

I find that comment interesting and sparks conversation.

Yes Williams has beef with Trev, but who cares. It's about entertainment.

There are sports journo's who's entire career are based of annoying fans. Stephen A Smith, Skip etc.

They do it for a reaction... and everyone here is reacting.

I haven't heard his commentary, so go nowhere near that, but in the context of this discussion the statement about 'understanding his journey' is nonsense.

As a commentator he needs to be judged on his performance in that role, not whether he has had a hard life [which I gather is the implication] or whatever.

To go down the 'understanding his journey' line is to suggest that every listener/watcher of any sport/activity needs to research and understand the life story of every radio or TV commentator he or she encounters, which is a nonsense ... and an impossibility, when you include 'understand'.

The attributes and effectiveness of a commentator can - should, anyway - be judged only on his or her performance in that role; not whether they have had a hard life, have played or coached the game/activity, are married or single, young or old ...

To see colour commentary done really well, watch an NFL broadcast. Ex players usually, who really know the game, know the people playing and coaching the game, provide insightful analysis of individual plays and tactical status of the game. They also have clearly done their research and provide anecdotes and history about players pre NFL as well as about historical precedents. That said, they're full time, professional sports commentators in the sport and I think that's what shows with the use of ex-players and coaches in NBL coverage. They simply rely on their experience, which rapidly becomes out of date and less relevant as new players enter the league and new fans start following the sport.

Personally, NBL commentators have never added a lot of value to my watching of the game. They generally tell you what you can see for yourself and mostly provide little insight into the tactics and thinking of players and coaches. Williams is just a more extreme example of that. Too much sizzle and not enough steak.

Not a teenager and I love his opinions.

You need to read between the lines with corey. Understand where he's coming from. Understand his background. Appreciate his journey and then u get where he is coming from and why he says what he says.

It's not always insightful but there's a background to it.

U can't take it on face value. If you do you're just being lazy.

Hate being a broken record about it, but he's the one commentator that leaves me muting the broadcast. Literally. I can't stand that sports bluster. And it's frustrating because we have loads of options, including past players who bring character and knowledge, like Heal, Rucker, Harvey, etc.

I can't comprehend his appointment. Unless there are thousands of teenagers who clamour for him?

You would understand the appointment if he was some kind of NBL legend but he's not. Awful choice.

Haha aptly said Kobe - Homicide just talks sh*t and in an annoying way at that

Tell me more about this remote Kobe!

Yeah, no kidding

I wasn't aware spending two hours wanting to put my very expensive remote through my even more expensive television counted as 'entertainment'.

He reminds me of Donald Trump. Can talk for ages without actually ever saying anything, and the only substantive things he does say reveal a cluelessness that ought to make him ineligible for his job or serve no other purpose than inflating his already building-sized ego.

CT, go play monopoly in your room. It's about entertainment!

"and you know what's good about those nba trips? Frequent flyer points maaannn! And everything the Nbl does is executive class, baby"

Thanks for that insight you utter, utter twat.

Ahhhh give 'im a chance

His reaction to Coach Gleeson letting Cotton score 45 in a grand final for example.

I like it when he’s not talking.

Agree. I liked the announcement of his return from the start

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1 Aug Stankovic Cup vs. Russia - Haining, China
2 Aug Stankovic Cup vs. Angola - Haining, China
3 Aug Stankovic Cup vs. China - Haniing, China
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8 – 12 Aug Training Camp - Gold Coast

16 Aug Olympic Test Event vs. China - London, England
17 Aug Olympic Test Event vs. France - London, England
18 Aug Olympic Test Event vs. Croatia - London, England
20 Aug Olympic Test Event vs. Serbia - London, England
21 Aug Olympic Test Event vs. Great Britain - London, England

25 Aug International Friendly vs. Spain – Murcia, Spain
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