Hoops

Kings v Hawks Sunday 15th October

JvG must be great at job interviews, playing AEG for suckers is amazing.

The longer it goes on, the worse it looks and the worse it will look when they actually have to do something, as if and when Lisch comes back, do they then get an import big to make up for the losses not having one will incur?

That they would be ok with the negative of treating an ex-captain like this, even the perceived one, let alone ACTUALLY doing it, speaks volumes for who is in charge...

I don't have any juicy info on what the real issue behind this Garlepp thing is. I can only speculate that the only benefit the Kings can get by keeping him is to prevent him from getting picked up by another team for the minimum salary and as absolutely last resort backup.

The only way they will trade those 'benefits' would be to not pay him.

Ellis was never known as a particularly strong rebounder, so no matter what anyone says, 2rebounds isn't a huge surprise... Disappointing still, but not a surprise... A great offensive effort, but as others have said, if he gives it back at the other end, it's not as much use in the overall scheme of things...

Lisch going down really hurts us, but am I alone in thinking that even defensively, Lisch wasn't really at the top of his game? I remember thinking more than once the last couple of games that he was getting beaten by his man more than what should be expected of someone with his reputation...

Was great to get a win, but still some alarming signs that need work... Defensively still crap, can't rely on hitting that many points or shooting at that % to win them games... Pineau and Singh getting considerably more minutes than Garlepp, even though he DID hit the court in junk time... Hammer said that it would have been less insulting to not get played at all instead of getting development player blowout minutes...

The cheer Tommy got should be evidence to the Kings decision makers, both on court and off, that this situation isn't going unnoticed and needs to get cleared up... Whatever the story is, that they are pressuring him to leave, or just told him that he wouldn't get any minutes and hoped that he would leave, are nearly as bad as each other... It's not how you run a business, let alone a team that needs to be strong and rely on each other... And people have been wondering why there seems to be no chemistry on court tis season?

Anon made a great point... if this was always going to be the case that he wouldn't get minutes, even behind inexperienced, under qualified players, especially in losses where he could have maybe helped, then he should have been cut and paid out at the end of last season... It's not a coincidence that when someone is let go in a normal workplace, they are more often than not just allowed to leave with their notice period and not kept around... It breeds discontent and resentment and that seeps into the rest of the workplace... Just another poor decision in what is getting to be a significant list from the Kings decision makers...

What is Ellis supposed to do... he is undersized so good luck on D.

One of them being Lisch unfortunately

Has anyone noticed just how bad Perry Ellis is defensively?

He gets a bucket then loses it next possession on the other end of the floor

Gaze is playing scrubs like Singh and Pineau ahead of him

Hawks looked very ordinary for much of the game. Maybe time to restart Rotnei if other starters aren’t going to spread the floor?

Ellis was excellent for the Kings.

Where is the NBLPA in all of this? If Kings want him to walk pay him out. Otherwise gutless.

Rumour going around is JVG and Gaze have agreed on pressuring garlepp to quit avoid paying him so they can put his contract money towards a 3rd import.

Gaze is proving to be the not so nice guy we all thought!

"Maybe Garlepp needs to realise he is no longer an NBL quality player"

People were saying the same about Lucas Walker.

Or perhaps SVG & Gaze should've realised that before they re-signed him to a 2 year deal.

Not sold on Conga. His handle stinks and is a streaky jump shotter at best.

Looks like he always wants to go right. Easy to scout.

Carfino made a good point they should start Clarke to get some offense early on.

Amritpal Singh is not Indonesian, he's from Denmark

Lisch looks to have a grade 2 tear at least so no Lisch for four weeks minimum.The Kings got away with it today with Lisch injury with Hawks been so poor but will hurt them from here on in.The other teams in league will clamp down on Newley and Ellis and the Kings points dry up.

The Kings organisation led by JVG is about marketing to the Sydney public and doing so praying they win games.

-Hire Gaze as Coach to attract sponsors
-Sign Bo Liu targeting the Chinese community
-Sign Singh to attract the Indonesian community
-Sign Deng Acuoth to get support from the Sudanese
community.

All of which has failed and they are second last on the ladder.

If I were a Kings fan I would be a little bit worried about how much Gaze was talking up Singh at the presser. He was raving about a couple of crucial boards he got and saying there are glimpses of real potential with Singh.

Maybe a big Indian sponsor has got on board because of Singh so that's why they don't mind having him on the roster.

Gaze also said there were a number of reasons why they never signed a third import and keeping one spot up their sleeve for something like this was one of a few reasons.

Shane Heal needs to learn his body parts as i'm sure Lisch was grabbing at his calf.It looks like a grade 2 tear at least so that's four weeks minimum and up to 6/8 weeks on the sideline.

While it was a much needed win for the Kings. As a long time kings fan, I'm disgusted how Garlepp is being treated and to make matters worse, gaze subs him in with 2 minutes left in the game like he's a development player.

No coach in their right mind would play Singh before Garlepp!! It shows me the best Australian basketball player is clearly NOT a coach!!

I agree some of the Hawks players shouldn't have been brought back but it's hard to make that decision after getting to a GF. To be fair to the Hawks they started last season 1-4 so 0-3 isn't that big a deal but White, Forman & Martin would be lucky to make another team's roster.

Gaze said in the presser it looks like Lisch has a grade 2 calf tear best case scenario is 3-4 weeks and worst case not worth contemplating so said they'll probably use their vacant third import spot on a replacement for him.

For a Team that wants to score 100 every Game, Norton, Kay, Johnson and Martin might want to show some aggressiveness at some point.

Defensively the Hawks look slow and individual. They are even stagnant on O, which is a huge no no for Bevo.

It really looks like Martin is done and Norton looks timid.

Wow! Tommy's in! Wow!

Garlepp ON!!!!!

Without Lisch the margin has gone up, lmao.

First 100pt Kings game for Gaze as coach.

Clearly they are struggling but too soon to write them off for the season.

The rest of the Kings' intensity went up a couple of notches after Lisch came down. Desperation is a funny thing... this is almost like a finals game.

Hawks looking at 0-3.

Cadee is even ripping the Hawks up. Something wrong down in Wtown?

His left leg just gave way as he pushed off.

Fingers crossed it is only a minor.

Steve not at the game?

I'm laughing now thinking back to the Cats-Hawks thread on Friday where I said Hawks are trash and ppl said it was a one off. Bevo defence has disappeared.

Lisch does not look good at all, could be season over unfortunately

Wow! Lisch looks bad... Heal might be right there, could be Achiles. He just buckled and fell.

Lisch injured. Season ending?

Like I said Ellis is shit hot, even though most were ignorant about him. 8/10 FG.

6,400 crowd

Hawks overrated by everyone.

SBS seems to be broken.

I've picked up the feed from pages.nbl.com.au/tv

'Has the feed just dropped out from nbl.tv for anyone else?'

Happened on SBS too

LOL! Called a foul after the halftime buzzer? One of the refs got money on Illawarra! :D

AJ had 74k in fantasy last week though.

Has the feed just dropped out from nbl.tv for anyone else?

This a fun game to watch with 0 defence being played

Ughh, who is that horrible sreeching Hawks fan in the crowd

Can someone please snipe her

End of first: Kings 30 - Hawks 23.

Ellis on fire, aggressive and hit 2 3ptrs already. AJ already on 2 fouls. Leslie is also aggressive and in attack mode.

So far the Kings' interior defense and rebounding are a far cry from their previous games. Looking good so far.

Oops.. My mistake

Aj Ogilvy will be on a mission to destroy.

On SBS not ABC.