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The Elephant in the NBL room.

"Owns the league, decides to change the cap to a soft cap knowing MU and other big market teams would benefit and would be free to spend as much as possible; "

Yeah, because the league in general hasn't benefited from the talent that money has brought here.


"hoped this would attract large crowd numbers to Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane - has so far failed in attracting crowd's to Brisbane and Sydney to the point it's embarrassing. "


And Sydney's weird managing style, poor coaching and strange player selections have nothing to do with that I suppose? meanwhile the last few games in Sydney last year were nearing 10K and it's improved exponentially from before new ownership when they average 2-3K.

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Has stated clubs would pay tax for overspending and made it a rule - has since swept this under the rug because his team have spend 1-2 million more than other teams and he's a grubby sleuth who is used of working around the rules to make money. "

Ah yes, all rich people are devious. Do you have any other evidence of him being a "grubby sleuth" or just your half baked conspiracy theories?

Melbourne outbid both Brisbane and Sydney for Moller. I imagine he's on a lot more than most folks seem to think.

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Perfection

I bought my mate an elephant for his room.
He said, "thanks".
I said, "don't mention it"

That's like saying the average person on here is on $20K a year.

Anderson 200K
Ware 200K
Goulding 200K
Prather 200K
Boone 170K
Moller 50K
Adnam 50K
Majok 50K
Wesley 70K
Hooley 40K
Barlow 70K
My predictions on what Melb are spending.

Wow #651081 just wow.

The medium for FTA must always be air, and preferably air at normal atmospheric pressure.

Anything else and the shot is affected and the FTM suffers.

I created 7.

Or just create 8 separate accounts and login as whichever team is playing on a free account? Then all games on nbl TV are still free...

No one knows and can prove the player salaries unless they are in the front offices.

Talk of Cotton on 20k / week, Ware $600k a season etc are all speculation as there is no substance behind it.

For the record, NBL TV have re-implemented their free accounts. So streaming is free again.

What has free Telstra last year got to do with FTA FREE TO AIR? Moron!

That's the highest number of FTA games per week since at least the 90s, except you also have the option of NBL.TV for $5 a month

Must be a Perth complainer .... because for once in the last 100 years, then may not win the championship.

Keller, you should be proud that your lack of understanding of professional sport has actually resulted in an interesting discussion about the current state of the NBL.

The NBL is in a great place right now. There is an obvious risk associated with LK's backing, however it's a risk well worth taking and things are on the right track at the moment.

Interesting comparison with the A-League/FFA situation as it stands right now. If FIFA come in and turf out Steven Lowy (son of Frank) as the Chairman, it'll be interesting to see how this impacts on the future funding of that sport in this country. The governance structure for soccer seems more fragile than basketball right now, notwithstanding the popularity..

LOL!

Anderson 200K
Ware 200K
Goulding 200K
Prather 200K
Boone 170K
Moller 50K
Adnam 50K
Majok 50K
Wesley 70K
Hooley 40K
Barlow 70K
My predictions on what Melb are spending.

"Having no Larry at all would mean no NBL as we know it. With him it looks that the NBL is much more popular than the A-League."

Well TV numbers and attendance says no to that assertion.

Either way I think people just like to complain. The NBL is doing better than it has since the 90s and seems to be getting more sponsors and partnerships and announcing new things every day that benefit the whole league, not just Melbourne United. If you're salty that Melbourne have something of a super team, that's your problem. Games have never been won on paper and Melbourne has never so much as got to a Grand Final series with any of their "super teams".

This whole thing just reeks of an angry Perth fan's drivel tbh. Those same Perth fans weren't complaining when Perth was the only team with cash behind it and when Nick Marvin was throwing his weight around more than needed in the decisions made for the league til that point.

As for LK suddenly leaving, I think you're deluded. The guy hasn't built his portfolio by suddenly leaving projects. There are projects he has seen to fruition that are less of a passion for him than the NBL, and the deal to give back ownership of the league was only if the teams wanted that, and I can guarantee they do not.

Basically, get over yourself. If Melbourne win it all in the end with their super team, it just means the other teams with cash will have to match them next year. And the budget teams have always competed anyway. They will still win games, make play offs. I am sure everything LK does is in the interest of the league. And he has done more for the league in a single day than people like OP have done for it over an entire lifetime.

I don't have a major problem with the public salaries backtracking. If clubs are doing the right thing then I agree it's unnecessary.
The luxury tax / equalisation situation is the one that concerns me.
Last season we were blessed with a very even competition, but unless the promised system is put in place to help maintain that balance things could get ugly in a hurry.

The ownership conflict of interest factor is obviously not ideal either, but I think it's a necessary evil for now.

So if you don't have Foxtel you only see 3 games live.

Small clubs getting belted by teams that over spend by shitloads wont survive.

I'd like more clubs in the league for sure, that's my biggest gripe but I think LK has done amazing and if you're an NBA player like a Bogut or Mills or Ingles and you wanted to buy an NBL team then it looks a lot better investment than several years ago.

Also with the adventure into the NBA, we may come to see an owner like Mark Cuban for example buy a team down here and invest in his draft picks playing down here, with the way the league is dealing with sponsors, it's certainly a lot more feasible and say AU$10m is bugger all to Cuban so he could see it as being worth it if his 2nd rounders come back the NBA the next season much more advanced than when they left then that is great for all involved.

Thank you Larry and Jeremy

Some people just can't be pleased.

The NBL is going better than it has in 15+ years. On multiple levels - talent, public interest, TV coverage.

But yeah let's whinge about LK. SMH.

LK's option on thecleague runs out at the end of this year. What happens then?

"With all the complaining about the salary cap people seem to forget when we had a hard salary cap and premierships were won solely by blatantly spending triple that."

AMEN.

LK's option on thecleague runs out at the end of this year. What happens then? The level of professionalism shown by his team is a lot higher than that of previous concerns, yet still leaves a lot to be desired.

I agree with D2's concerns about lack of transparency, and I'm very concerned about what decisions the League, or any small part of it not owned/run by LK, will make in terms of future ownership and direction of the league. There are serious questions that require answers.

Thread title did not deliver.

Those three sides are still spending big, it's just that Melbourne has won two games that now the haters are sooking again.

you over estimate the actual control over day to day ops that LK and his partner michael slepoy have in running united. LK has taken a back step to the running of united. He is not involed. Yes he is courtside at all the games but he isnt running the team.

Also... you all act like LK is the only person running things in NBL HQ. Dont forget about Jeremly Loeinger and everyone else involved. You act like every move is based for united's advantage. We wouldnt have NBL without LK, so stop moaning and just enjoy the product.

I'm with anon #964. League is great, and we're going on 3 seasons in a row where, if I'm home, odds are I'm watching any game that's broadcast no matter who's playing.

An owner who owns a team in the league, or no league.

I know what my choice is.

I agree with very little of what the OP is saying. However there is a valid point, where is the luxury tax and the equalisation payments? I am OK with not having it provided the league says they have scrapped the terrible idea.

Whoever started this thread......just wow! Go build up the SEABL and compete! I love where the league is heading, you need to wake up! When it was run by BA or whoever's basketball mate got the job, it was on a huge slide!

Someone a bit late to bed and a bit grumpy... school tomorrow, kiddo, off you go...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melbourne_United

Check who the owners are.

It's funny how these threads pop up after someones team gets belted by 20+

Saw topic, thought for sure this thread would be about Homicide. Disappointed.

The seasonal "LK is a New World Order reptilian on a pursuit to destroy the NBL from the inside-out" thread. Never fails to deliver.

A few geese on here. Maybe the critics like seeing teams comprised of lacklustre talent playing in tin-sheds? The NBL hasn't been this great since the 90's, and still it has a long way to go to get back there.

If you guys want to put your pocket-money together to buy out United and run it how you see fit, then please do so!

Look the loony bins sucking the teet of a multimilionaire, pathetic followers.

This is so disrespectful and ungrateful to LK.

The LK era has brought in major sponsors including HJ's as a naming right sponsor this year.

He has negotiated deals seeing EVERY game live on Foxtel and 3 games on FTA TV.

He has resurrected the Brisbane Bullets, organised NBL x NBA games and single handedly save the NBL from a very near collapse.

A snake?....Cancer and an unprofessional twat? Show a bit of respect and give the guy a break.

Pretty sure the Lightning are now owned by the entity that also owns the Sixers, Adelaide Basketball or whatever it's called.

Andersen is rumoured to be on $500-$600K and Goulding is on $400K. I would think they would be spending close to $2.5M on that roster. Has to be around $1M more than any other team.

I think LK has done a lot of great things for the league but there is a distinct South Dragons whiff about Melb Utd this season and I just hope after he buys that championship and then content with having climbed that mountain doesn't turn around and pull all his money out like the Dragons owners did.

If Ware, Goulding, Prather and Boone are only on the figures quoted above then huge credit to whoever is doing the recruiting because they are master negotiators.

Doesn't mean he should get away with corruption dumb anon.

Short memory of how pathetic this league was just a few seasons ago. He has done wonders for the comp. Hush now child.

How much are United even spending?

Anderson 500K
Ware 300K
Goulding 300K
Prather 300K - 400K
Boone 200K
Moller 70K
Adnam 70K
Majok 100K
Wesley 100K
Hooley 60K
Barlow 90K

Just a guess has to be similar to that though?

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