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Kings release Jeremy Tyler

lol no sarcasm intended... have been a fan of the agent in question for a while, he's managed to bring some quality talent back to our shores (and then took some away :( but then brought them back :) )

Not sure where I said it, I've been ranting a lot today, but is Jeff capable of siting back and letting even a top quality coach coach? Does he only meddle because he doesn't have the right coach or will he not going to be able to give over control to even a proven coach?

nearly half the NBL are represented by Entersport

On court pretty good , other than all the fouls.
Liked to watch Randle and Tyler.
Others only moderate.

Oh there's no chance, but just saying in the grand scheme of things, if the Kings wanted to win NOW, that's who they'd need...

As a local, there are definitely positives for Shawn to come back home and it would be a great challenge that I think he can excel at, but with Jeff in charge, will he be fully able to do what he needs to do to get it done?

Depends if Jeff stays, and if he does, how he can sell it... IF he is capable of understanding that that's what needs to be done... Some serious pulling of his head out of his own arse is needed, which I don't have faith in him being capable of...

I was thinking of Norton and Kay as well and am on the record of being huge fans of both of them... they both posses qualities that are vital to rebuilding the right culture...

And yup... Jois, Isaac, Randle, Wilson, and nearly half the NBL are represented by Entersport... If Olgun is to be believed and taking into consideration his ties to everyone involved, he should be, players have been offered but turned down... I'm sure they could have helped the Kings out in the NBA pre-season game as well, but for some reason the Kings wanted to go it alone...

The Kings have proven time and time again that Jeff thinks he knows what's best and has a stubborn streak that has been to the detriment to the team and if it continues will be it's downfall...

You have zero chance of luring Goorjian away from his current gig. The coaching crown prince of China's national team A isn't going to budge from his current position.

I think he may even turn down an NBA gig as they prepare for 2020. Chinese basketball collosal rise is gathering momentum and he is in prime position to reap the benefits both financial and reputation-wise.

As for Jois, Shiga bought out Jois' contract from Osijek to give Shawn the speed and rebounding he needed for his frontline. It wouldn't be cheap I reckon.

But why would they WANT to come?

I think the old comments of Goorj driving teams broke was because he always demanded the best off the court as well? (supplements, top level trainers/physios etc?) This would have had a bigger impact the last time he was in the league which was what, nearly a decade ago? Teams now see the value in that stuff more these days, wouldn't they?

Unless there was other stuff driving these comments?

As for him not being a developer of talent, I think that's sort of right as, again, correct me if I'm wrong as it was a while ago, he was absolutely fantastic about getting the best and more out of players to suit the team and to get wins... Compared to a Shawn Dennis type of coach who could grow and develop players, they're two different types of coaches...

If you want immediate wins and to build a team that will win now and make the playoffs, Goorj is your man... If you have a three year plan, want to bring in some young players and grow them with a core group of established players, then Dennis is probably your best bet...

In other words, Dennis is who the Kings needed instead of Gaze... Goorj is who they need NOW...

Bit unfair to Say Gorj sent the Kings broke. The club was majority owned by a fraud with no money so it wasn't that hard

Isn't he a 2/3 just what the Kings don't need.

Who cares it its rent free. The fans want a team that is at least competitive not this piss weak excuse for the Kings that we see now.
Andrew Gaze needs to be sacked as does JvG. Lister grow a pair. Their is no way from a commercial business point of view you are doing those balls.

I definitely agree that the Kings are in SERIOUS trouble being able to attract coaching and playing talent to the team... They've been an absolute fucking nutcase organisation since coming back, doing things half-arsed and making stupid decisions, but there was some hope when AEG bought them out and I will own up to hoping at the time that JvG could actually make some right calls, but then signing his mate from the Tigers to actually coach, over the much more experienced Dennis was fucking mental...

The only decent thing signing Gaze did for the team was to boost the profile and get people talking about the team again... People who hadn't been interested in it since he last played were now talking about it and the Kings were getting some traction... It's all been downhill since...

The tough decisions have to be made and Harvey Lister needs to step in and sack both Jeff and Andrew and go back to a proven coach who can attract and develop talent... Start with the 3yr plan again next season otherwise it will all be for nothing...

The fact that Shawn is now coaching Venky (someone who I haven't been shy about saying that the Kings should have signed initially) is just icing on the cake and would be a huge coup for the team to get both of them...

But why would they WANT to come? Throwing fistfuls of cash at people will only work so much if they have to deal every day with the madness and especially in the head coach positions case, someone else who is grossly unqualified, making the decisions for you and sticking you with all the blame if it doesn't work out...

Shawn Dennis already has a coaching gig in Japan

Tyler was on the road in Brisbane and didn't play. He then wanted to have a few days off on the Goldie. Shows where his head is. Up his arse.NO loss.
How he even got selected in the first place is a joke. Many said immediately after his selection he was a bust. Who cares about his on court "ability" Collectively he's left another club in another season, again. His rep has preceded him and JVG couldn't even see or ask expert advice from someone like Goorj in China who would know first hand.

Shawn Dennis was interviewed for the Kings game and was not accepted.
Why would he want to get involved with a rabble like them.
Far better ff where he is and if another job comes up then could be considered for that but certainly not the rabble they call the SYDNEY KINGS

The club is clearly prepared to spend money now. It is even prepared to just throw it away judging by some of the moves this season. So getting Goorj should not be a problem if he is interested. Would he be? He is probably doing great for himself in a place that pays even more.

With these things there is always a lot that goes on behind the scenes, so who really knows what happened. The facts are that Tyler was the best offensive centre in the league so you can reach your own conclusions on why he was not wanted for the future.

Does this mean he will give randle less than 40 minutes a game for the purpose of developing the guards?

"Can playoff bound teams pick him up by dropping an import? Whats the go now?"

If you are playoff bound, why would you want to F it up by signing him?

Given their performances, I'd say Tyler wasn't the only one not turning up to training.

So after sifting through a lot of fan indignation and "good riddance" comments on the various facebook fan pages, there is a rumour from a fairly solid sauce that apparently Tyler hasn't been turning up to trainings... Did it again this morning and that was the last straw...

The timing is pretty shit and he should never have been signed in the first place, but the timing is atrocious, perfect for the Kings... with 8 games to go there isn't even a chance of getting some random import in to fill the spot just to make up numbers as the odds on Adelaide winning Saturdays game just got a LOT shorter... It's gonna be a massacre of a remainder of the season even compared to the first 20 games...

Every move they have made from Gaze as a coach down to the majority of roster decisions have been made to try and put bums on seats instead of for basketball reasons... What JvG has failed to realise is that it takes wins to do that. Everything else the team has done has been a considerable improvement under the new owners EXCEPT what's happened on the court.

Jeff how about you fix another and perhaps your biggest blunder? Shawn Dennis is waiting.

removing him is another masterstroke by JVG, following the masterstroke of bringing him in

"Chris you've obviously never watched an NBA game in full if you think the refs in the NBL are more confusing than the NBA ones!"

Can confirm that I've watched an NBA game in full, and you're incorrect.

This guy is shooting at 56 %, one of their best players. Keep Singh, Pineau, Humphries and release JT. Does that make any sense? I would say, he jumped from a sinking ship.

Signing him was an attempt to salvage post-season aspiration. With that officially dead, he became an expensive liability.

Money may not be the only driving force behind the decision, but certainly a major factor for a club haemorrhaging it and fan support. With one concession after another, Jeff how about you fix another and perhaps your biggest blunder? Shawn Dennis is waiting.

What a stinking clusterf#$k the kings are.

This guy is shooting at 56 %, one of their best players. Keep Singh, Pineau, Humphries and release JT. Does that make any sense? I would say, he jumped from a sinking ship.

Hey maybe we should try Perry at the 5 spot! What a matchup nightmare that would be for the rest of the league!

Pretty sure "evaluate their talent" is just code for "Tyler is sick of this shit and wants out".

Making room for Bogut obviously

Anyone heard if ONE is airing any college ball this season?