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WNBL Grand Finals

You forgot to mention Kunek had 2 points playing for the opposition in double O.T

Batkovic 40 points, 16 rebounds in Europe.

Herbert would be a good pick up for Rangers, he’s done a great job with Geelong SEABL women

Reply #670472
re: WNBL Grand Finals
Not sure Rangers need to panic and replace Anderson after a bad season of injuries. Anderson took the Rangers to a GF only last season.

Think you may find it’s not just because of the result of this season on court

Anderson has been outcoached in many important games in her time as wnbl coach. 2 seasons ago in her first final against Stars they stole defeat from the jaws of victory. Then she got outcoached by Chambers in the grand finals the year after and it wasn't even close. Whenever it is crunch time she just plays with her hair and argues with the umpires and thats not going to get it done

Anderson made finals in her 1st year, Grand Final in her 2nd year and didn't make finals this year due to significant injuries. Overall, I think Anderson has proven herself. Not to mention how many SEABL titles she's won at Rangers.

I thiought Chambers wanted to stay home in Melbourne due to family?

(that should have been, no idea if there *was* any credibility to the Chambers rumour)

I don't see the problem with Anderson either, personally. No idea if there is any credibility to the Chambers -> Dandenong rumour, but if there is then I guess the Rangers see things differently.

The flood-drought-flood season that the Caps had just goes to show how close things were in the league IMO. The Rangers could easily have been very competitive had health & continuity been on their side. (Though I don't think they were going to make the GF ahead of Melbourne or Townsville, so I guess it still would have been a step backwards from 2017. Which to me is as much a product of their recruiting budget as it is the coaching. It's never really a shock when the 2 biggest budget rosters end up in the GF)

Not sure Rangers need to panic and replace Anderson after a bad season of injuries. Anderson took the Rangers to a GF only last season.

If rangers have missed out on chambers it’s pretty slim pickings out there for a half decent coach unless they look overseas or at some of the men’s coaches/assistant coaches

Be very interesting to see just who they do get to replace Anderson

What's wrong with Lucas's coaching for Bishop wanting to leave??

Yep Anderson is on the outs, they didn't get Chambers but will get someone else.

I read Chambers will coach Rangers??

That should read “would NOT take Anderson back on”

I don't expect Novosel or Hamblin will return to Adelaide either.

Unlucky for Rangers she would have been a welcome and much needed addition
Be interesting to see just who will get the Rangers job , they surely would take Anderson back on

Didn’t quite o few of those players sign for 2 years?

If rumours are true, Adelaide will have a lot of players not returning??

Hope his mail on Abby Bishop going to Canberra is better..

Boti's Journalism at its finest!!

Looks like Boti's scoop about Chambers coaching in Melbourne next season was off the mark. She just signed with Sydney for 2 more seasons.

Even by Ohea's own standards, she would admit she a had a shocker of a series.

"SEABL needs to bring in some rulings re age limit and player restriction"

""They do. From memory WNBL players that average more than 20 mins are Restricted B (same as an import - Restricted A), and those that average 14 to 20 are restricted C. Only allowed 3 restricted players with no more than 2 A and/or B.

*Minutes may be slightly different, but there are restrictions.""


unless they have played over 150 games of SEABL with that club then that negates those restrictions

"SEABL needs to bring in some rulings re age limit and player restriction"

They do. From memory WNBL players that average more than 20 mins are Restricted B (same as an import - Restricted A), and those that average 14 to 20 are restricted C. Only allowed 3 restricted players with no more than 2 A and/or B.

*Minutes may be slightly different, but there are restrictions.

I was surprised that Boomers didnt try and play zone defence themselves or change their matchup and have Purcell guard Suzi? Suzi plays better against slower bigs like Cambage!

""I think there is a fine line re SEABL as these younger players aren't going to develop as quickly if they are purely playing against players of their own age/size - they've had all their junior careers to do that. IMO they need that exposure to the WNBL players with their seasoned bodies and experience at a higher level i.e. some sort of a challenge to help them improve both mentally, physically and at their skill sets. ""

to a degree yes but not at the exclusion of being relegated to the benchagain in SEABL, isnt that what the purpose is for them as development/bench players in the WNBL ,they get to train against seasoned bodies and players, some even get a few minutes, so how is it then giving them the opportunity to play SEABL if the majority of the minutes are once again taken up by 'seasoned'bodies, when do these younger (im not talking juniors Im talking you 19/23 yr olds who are good enough to take a spot on a WNBL roster)get their chance to become 'seasoned '"

""I think the WNBL players playing SEABL also has to do with our season length and their pay checks. I honestly have no clue how well or poorly SEABL clubs pay their players, but I would assume for many of these WNBL players the opportunity to get paid year round would allow them to focus solely on basketball and not require an additional full time job to support themselves. I just don't think you can expect these players to play 3 months of the year and sit idle for the remainder of the year. Other than SEABL and the state leagues whom have even stricter quotas on WNBL players, there really isn't anywhere else for them to play, with the exception of the lucky few who will get contracts in Europe, the WNBA or Opals camps following their WNBL stint.""

Valid point but in the long run you wont have anyone coming through the ranks to take their place,these girls will put their focus else where, AWFL/Netball, careers because they cant sit their forever waiting. SEABL needs to bring in some rulings re age limit and player restrictions, and get these younger players opportunities to actually develop enough so they can also find spots on WNBL rosters, not just picking out splinters from their behinds

you might think it was terrible coaching for them to miss all those wide open shots but in the timeout it showed him telling them to put the ball in the hole and yet they disobeyed. so what is a coach to do? the players were to blame.

something that just caught my eye and that's the woeful offensive production by Melbourne Tigers captain Tommy Greer.

over the last 3 games he averaged 0.6ppg. yeah that's right you read correctly 0.6ppg!

tonight he played 11 minutes and not even in foul trouble and doubt injury. can somebody recall anyone else with this kinda production as a captain?

btw former captain Cam Tragardh seems to be much more productive at 16.7ppg and actually PLAYED in the 4th qrter when the game was on the line, and seems to play a much more important role than Greer.

perhaps Tigers trying to keep the fans happy after cutting Corletto? seems like some ugly politics involved in this

Kelly Wilson was an example of someone who really doesnt need SEABL for'development'", it was not a slur on her as a player,but if they dont start putting these younger players who sit on these WNBL benches ahead of these WNBL starters and those ready to retire,if they dont they have nothing when these other players do retire or move to Europe to play to get the money

Will be interesting to see the makeup of Boomers team next season without Liz? I assume they will replace her with a WNBA calibre centre? Probably need add better shooter aswell?

Got to give credit to diamond valley then...
Seabl team is all youth.

Magbegor
Scherf
Wehrung
Gorman
Ayres
Whatman
Gould
Smith
Crupi

“Need a youth league like every other code.

Big v, seabl etc don't push these players. Just a ame, little development.”

SEABL should be the development league for WNBL, but they fill those sides with the older WNBL players who really should be making room fir the younger ones.
Kelly Wilson prime example stated tonight she would be playing SEABL in two months yet is thinking of retiring, so how is that giving any opportunity for a younger player to gain development
And she won’t be on her own there, you will have plenty in their late 20s to early 30s who are either looking at retiring or are just bit players in WNBL Taking up spots that the younger players should be utilising

Congrats to Suzi! She's a champion! Not sure I agree with just giving young ones opportunities without them deserving or earning it! Today's generation of kids are all about entitlement!

Agree with Boomers Supporter about the defection of young players to AFLW.Chloe Molloy, a Boomers player from last year a classic example.Conti will have to make some decisions about her preferred sport in the next couple of years.

By the way, did anyone have a major problem with the reffing today? I thought it was pretty well officiated, but not everyone agreed



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#WNBL18 #referees #jeez #WhyInAFinal? #fixthis

Whilst disappointed as a Boomer, it was great to see Suzy B play so well and add weight to the non-selection issue of the last Olympics. Adds to Phillips comments on retirement about her experience at the the Rio Olympics.

Also thought that Liz C played pretty well with limited opportunities- but why have her at high post so often. Actually thought that Conti was the only small who made an effort to set a good screen for her.

To the comments about age (and I agree completely regarding Dandenong)- it may become an even bigger problem with AFL-W. Why stay in basketball and have to play limited or no minutes for a few years? Even the champions didn't play Garbin (and she is 23), who looks like a good prospect, that much.

Just one small comment- does Suzy fend off with her right arm on most of her shots, and would she get away with it in the US?

Congrats to Suzy & the Fire.
Well summed up by the above poster re. Melbourne's total inability to hit from the perimeter.
When you see O'Hea passing up a wide open three to swing it across to Purcell in the corner, you know she's mentally defeated. Smart & Purcell can definitely hold their heads high after the finals they had though.
Fire's depth & versatility won through, but largely thanks to Suzy being amazing. When you've got a winning option for everyone else to work off, you're always on the front foot. The Boomers were pushing shit up hill all game, and actually I think the scoreline mostly flattered them.

So is this when all the hate for Guy and Justin starts?

Next season?

Donnelly/Cocks
Whittle/?
Murray/?
George/Garbin
Batkovic/Aokuso

Wiese/Mincy moved on?
Wilson retired?
Goodchild-College?
Andrews-Portland Pilots

No shame in losing to that deep, well coached Townsville team with a Suzy that seems ageless.

I really thought Melbourne would have made a few outside shots in 1 of the 3 games although it wasn't to be.

probably only 1 senior college player will enter wnbl next season.

lol anonymous, you do realise that Townsville is even more loaded for talent than Melbourne, right?

Need a youth league like every other code.

Big v, seabl etc don't push these players. Just a ame, little development.

You don’t see any quality coming through because the vast majority of these teams leave their “youth” sitting on the bench all season
No succession planning will see teams falling behind ,
Rangers were a classic example of that this year

league getting old and we aren't seeing much quality youth coming in.

Donnelly should be ahead of Lavey in the opals rotation also.

Well done Fire.

Better team.

Fire dared Melbourne to beat them from 3 and they shot 4/34 from behind the arc on mostly wide open shots.

^ what are on about? They just finished runner up for season

Beat em in every single quarter. Well done, Fire.

I haven't followed much, but wasn't there a point in the season where they looked done and dusted, and that the dynasty looked over?

So glad Suzy got the last laugh on that B, Liz Cambage. I get the feeling that the only supporter base going for the Boomers is their own. The whole of Australia rejoicing after this win