Hoops

Perth v Melbourne, Jan 12

Re the number of fouls called in this game: maybe if the players were coached to play within the rules instead of push the boundaries of physicality/legality all the time we'd not only see less fouls called but better refereeing too.

And yes - our bigs need to cut out the dumb fouls because we no longer have a deep rotation in the front court.

I think the Brandt on the bench experiment needs to end now.
I get what we were trying to achieve with it (more scoring punch off the bench), but it's not working.
Right now, a bigger problem is lack of scoring at the start of the game. We look one-dimensional to me without an interior target, and last night the result was Martin, Walker & Tokoto forced to take threes, and that's bad.

Get Brandt back in the starting 5, make better use of him, and fix the bench scoring by managing the rotations better such that we're not sitting more than 1 of Cotton, Tokoto & Brandt for any significant length of time.

Need to get more out of Steindl too. It was always a weird move to replace Knight with him, but what's done is done so let's allow the guy to get some shots up. He can score, but we're getting him virtually no good looks.

Personal fouls, yes i mistakenly referenced team instead of personal fouls,point is the same none the less foul trouble (is that ok) for our bigs caused the weird rotation

"Team fouls mess up rotations do people understand so little about basketball?"

Please help me understand. How do team fouls mess up rotations? What they actually do is send the other team to the free throw line. Personal foul trouble forces players to the bench and that messes up rotations. Team fouls just leak easy points. Do people who criticise others for not understanding basketball understand even less themselves?

I wonder if United will keep Wesley as an import and not retain Prather and try and secure an Australian 3 man.

The flow of the offence seems much better without Prather and Goulding, just as it did when Goulding was out early in the season.

Finding a big man who can dominate the low block like Wesley did last night are hard to come by.

Surely Wesley wouldnt be far off OZ or NZ citizenship yet??

I got the impression of gleeson being more interested in the refs than his players.
By silence , it suggests that he possesses stronger nerves and higher standards...

“We went to work. We did some weird stuff. We wrestled and did some MMA. We’re playing harder. We’re more physical. I thought tonight we hit them first.” spoken from wesley himself, newsflash you did and you got away with enough of it to win.

Team fouls mess up rotations do people understand so little about basketball?

'Gleeson with some of the most random rotations I've seen in a while. Feel sorry for vague, chucking him in the deep end like that. Then to refuse to put Cooke in..not only does a big get rebounds, also protects the paint, is a presence, set screens in offense, or even be an option for an easy 2. So painful to watch.'

Did his best Alvin Gentry impersonation

Dwayne Russell is easily the most biased commentator in the league.

Re biased commentator Tommy Greer.

You can't knock the ball off the rim after a foul has been called.

Great game. Perth fans salty with mums home cooking and still losing so im loving it. She must of over cooked the roast

Just a question how was that goal tending by moller on the foul? Isnt the nbl under fiba rules where u can knock the ball off the cylinder? Or am i mistaken.

Also finally is there a more biased commentator than redhage? Get him off perth games please

It would help if Brandt wasn't terrible. I don't know what Lemanis did to him and Hodgson but it can't be a coincidence.

Yep, definitely a Crocs supporter ^^

So where do you coach Koberulz?
Clearly you know it all.

Crazy game. Perth’s offence was terrible at times. The NBL ain’t the 2 horse race it was for the last decade, United, 36ers, Breakers and even Hawks are showing they can stop the 3-peat.

Gutted to be in attendance for a loss but glad it was a close game. I fkn love this game

Bet the house in United. Happy days.
So where do you coach Koberulz?
Clearly you know it all.

Boone only played 20 minutes too. Makes the win even more impressive

Gleeson looked to be in vintage form tonight from where I was sitting. Amazed he wasn't T'd up.

So many "why would you..." questions tonight. It was like the whole team left their brains in Sydney.

Vague didn't hit the floor until after Waxy fouled out. Hire never even suited, so Gleeson just ran out of bigs. Wagstaff was playing the 5 for most of the last quarter.

Why you'd have your three-point shooter inbounding for a drive down four with four seconds left, though...

Look at the fouls on the big men that is why gleesons rotation was a mess. Why it took him so long to slide jp to the 4 is the most confusing thing

Wow.

That was the most impressive win in Melbourne United's history.

Also i said the no call on tokoto for throwing the ball into an opposition player was the worst no call of the game

If the git on damois ok why was it a foul on walker earlier in the game for holding his ground as goulding ran into him? As an afl player he should know front on contact is not allowed

When are you allowed to airball than grab your own airball after landing? Isnt that a travel?
We played shit Marto was awful with the ball slowed it down on a couple plays when shouldn't have. Threw ball away couple times too. Also shooting 1 of 7 or something stupid.

Flogstaff......well done

You are allowed to tip the ball off the rim in live play. In that case the foul had already been called before moller tapped it out.

It's too late to find now, I'd suggest. Oh well, worse things than not having to buy grand final tickets.

United's D was impressive. That's the template for how to beat us.

@hogwash

'Melbourne will defeat Perth or NZ for the title.
Gleeson appears to have surrendered this game his rotations are shocking and all key bigs in foul trouble.

Also if Perth were to make import change time is fast running out'

Lol.... melbourne winning in finals.... good one

WTF was Gleeson thinking on that last play?

So he is fair game after he lands?

Ive been bitching about melbourne getting the calls but that is a tech on tokoto, he threw ball at anotjer player! For fuck sake do your jon and make the call.

Damo gets absolutley flattened and its a no call?

So the shooter is fair gane after he releases the layup? Disgraceful no call

Lolding

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FFS Moller got it

It was of moller

Perth fans lucky people far smarter and more rational than them run their club

You’d sign Wesley as an import wouldn’t you. Solid player.

Realists?? holy f**k where do you come from?

Thats a fifth foul worthy is it?

lol, the f@cking perth fan in this thread isn’t far behind.. top of the ladder, wants coach sacked, wants new import

No travel on felix???

Homicide going full potato tonight

They have until next week to replace Cooke. Can't see it happening but they're not winning anything if they don't.