Hoops

Hawks v Sixers, Jan 21

I suspect Conger's inclusion in a team is disruptive (from his style of play rather than personality) - the Hawks look ineffective too often and the significant roster changes have been Conger and Ogilvy's form.

Udog, hard to say with much authority and why I think it's worth a more detailed discussion than just "x > y" or "You're crazy! y > x!".

I have no qualms with someone saying Conger is better than Creek because it's certainly not an outrageous comment in the context of a sports forum.

In other words, what makes a "better" player. One who stands out at the detriment of the team or one who could possibly dominate a game but fits in, plays a role and contributes to a better team?

Out on the road, playing a team who had a chance to learn from how you just beat them and recover, and still pummelled the Hawks. Fourth straight 100+ point game. I think they hit 100 with 6 minutes to run!? And not only is there such an even spread of talent, but you don't even get a sniff of a prima donna on the team.

When Sobey recovers form, you can see he's not celebrating for himself, but with the team. It's a really likeable squad IMO, especially with three solid contributing imports, and good prospects (Drmic, Deng, etc). There's some formidable opposition still, but I'd be keen to see them run rampant through the league and finals and win it all.

On Creek vs Conger, I think Conger probably has a broader skillset and think he'll win MVP, but I'd take Creek first. I suspect Conger's inclusion in a team is disruptive (from his style of play rather than personality) - the Hawks look ineffective too often and the significant roster changes have been Conger and Ogilvy's form.

Creek seems to fit a team, plays hard no matter what, contributes in multiple facets. Doesn't need to dominate the ball to influence a game in subtle ways.

Don't forget that Shorter went back to US because of the hurricane after a few games. They just flew his Mum over and he started playing well then. Who knows how that experience has affected him.

How good was the decision to not pay extra for Randall as we have got a team here that has real depth and don't have any one person that has to carry team.
And now playing as a unit no matter who is on especially on defence which if we can improve on will make our chances very high as always with this team going to get a winnable score.
Don't know where Shorter was in some of those earlier games or maybe finally got Joey off his back by getting system Joey wanted and now confident.
Finally Creek is the player we all been waiting for but NBA I don't think so as most points are going to basket and just a bit bigger and stronger to allow that.
But if we keep must must must be captain again.

Sixers scored double perth today....

Jason Cadee wasn’t, he left prior to that season to join the kings.

I was thinking the same thing Big Ads, whoever we play in the playoffs is going to be tough but Motum also got injured just before that playoffs series which didn’t help. Either way, it doesn’t matter what sort of streak you bring in to the playoffs, you have to bring on the day, home court will also help if we can secure it.

Yeah but Adam Gibson was on that team. And Jason Cadee.

This streak reminds me a little of the 2014-15 season when a young 4 man from the Boomers joined the team during the season. The Sixers were on a roll going into the Finals but then got cleaned up by the Breakers.

Too soon to start talking championship.

Creek better than Conger, no hahahahaha

0-3 against Melbourne in the first 3 weeks of the season might not mean much though with Shorter out and injuries and imports leaving. The last game in Melbourne they came good second half too.

The Doyle injury also meant Moore started bringing the ball up more for the second unit. Moore and Shorter have both come along in leaps and bounds (see what I did there?).

We're looking pretty good right now but not getting carried away with the streak we've gone 0-4 against Melbourne this season.

Then again, Creek came back and killed it too. Tough to split them

Haha such a politician statement, Udog.

It's clear that their drive comes from Shorter/Creek.

I'd say Shorter is more important. Head of the snake. Team came good once he started playing with a chip on his shoulder

Easy to look good when your teammates aren't performing.

They're all important. That's why they're good.

Who is more important to Adelaide, Creek or Shorter?

Looking pretty safe now though

Game over. Shut up please Cory Williams you're doing my head in.

Come on Sixers not safe yet, bring it home by 10!

Hawks could still win from here if they shoot the lights out. Adelaide have repelled all the comebacks so far though.

Cairns will lose to Melbourne and that'll be it for Taipans.

I'm stating the obvious here, but Josh Childress has a bit of psycho in him

Hawks losing doesn't make Perth ok. Perth are only 3 wins in front of Cairns and we still have 2 games vs them.

Illawarra showing some fight

If Illawarra lose this Perth will be ok. Abd they probably shouldn't...

If Hawks lose this they can't make the finals.

Don't forget, this isn't a 3pt shooting team. 7/9 at half-time

The game could be a bit closer if the Hawks bigs could finish inside, they have missed a lot of easy ones and Adelaide have them got out on the break. It’s as if the pace the Sixers play with is making the Hawks rush in offense.

Hodgson so frustrating though, he played very well in that first half but committed silly fouls again and now has to sit on the bench. That moving screen was just dunb and he needed to go straight up on the Ogilvy play. The whole Adelaide roster seems to be firing though making us look irresistible!

The Hawks are making Adelaide look great with terrible D. Great energy and cutting from Adelaide. They're getting 1-on-1 matchup with lots of space to operate.

I get the feeling they're spending petrol tickets at this point of the season. They won't be this good come playoffs

Thumbs up to Adelaide so far. Wow.

Hawks look pretty good but Adelaide look so many levels above.

Hodgson showing some signs!

Sixers shooting from three point 6/7 and finally matching other teams from there... Fantastic. Creek 2/3 sensational.

Keep it up fantastic 78% from field!!!

36ers have 39 points in 10 minutes. Statman, Is that a new record for the 40 minute game?

Let's Go Sixers Let's Go!

I'd like a competitive game to watch but at the same time it was nice to see the 36ers so switched on and firing the other day.

"Wollongong is the 36ers least favorite venue"

Just had a Damon Lowery flashback. Thanks a lot...

Johnson, Sobey and Shorter were the only three to play long gruelling minutes on Friday nights winning game. Still betting Johnson will hit his season average as he's looking very committed this season. Seems even when he thinks and acts like he's had a bad call he translates that to extra effort. Great to see. Sobey will not want to fall back after such a great game so even if he gets a few less minutes I think he will not lack effort. Shorter is Shorter, he will just keep on and Moore might have a few extra minutes of his time.

Joey spread the load very well Friday night so travel factor should be minimal.

Sixers depth and improved game to prove too much for the Hawks. Adelaide by 10!

Hawks can't be that crap twice right?

NBL need to remove the (c) from against Oscar on the Box Score, unless it stands for something else

Hate to be pedantic, but Forman isn't the Hawks' captain. It's White (#3) and Norton this year.

Anyway, good test for the confident 36ers.

The Hawks did not fluke winning 2 out of 3. Adelaide out coached and the players not switched on, more concerned with creating media related digs at the Hawks.

Today id like to think the 36er core will be able to semi lock in top 2.

Id say Adelaide has too much to play for in regards to the ladder etc but Joey did coach them to a Game 3 Semi loss at home with even more to play for, sooooo....

But Adelaide should win, too much more to play for and Joey doesnt have to coach against the mighty Marvelle Harris this arvo lol

Has anyone seen the times for this weeks games? Friday is ok (compared to the other times). Around 10:40, ok i can handle that.
Saturday.. or should i say Sundays game. 1:15am. Getting worse.. Sunday or should i say Mondays game 2:05am!!!!
They said "near live". They HAVE to broadcast within 3 hours of tip off. Then they said no it's within 3 hours after the game is finished. Sunday's game is in Cairns, tip off 7:30. Game would finish at 9:30. So latest would be 12:30am. Surely this has to be a breach of contract?

Yes i'm aware of the long term gain the NBL gets with this deal with One. BUT, why should the NBL believe One/TEN will honor this? One/TEN also said this year there will be more games, more live games than 2010/11. Yes there are more games, but 0 live games.

Should the league just cut it's losses?