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Are there any aboriginals in the NBL?

For anyone still wondering if there are any new indigenous players in the NBL this season, Davo Hickey at the Phoenix is indigenous.

Don’t forget there were other Aboriginal and indigenous Australians playing high level basketball who would have played NBL, if it had existed before 1979.

eg Michael Almaty- 1964 Olympics, represented NT in Australian championships. He was an on court genius for his spatial awareness and slick passing.

Since the start of the NBL, I highly doubt that any Australian-based Olympian would not play NBL.

It's Morseu, not Morseau.

I notice the anon from earlier has been unable to provide footage of Morseu in the 1979 grand final, too.

Rufus, did you just make the same typo that Melbourne United allegedly made? I sense koberulz stopping by any moment to call you out. BTW<,someone needs to contact Google as it is misspelt a lot there too.

He was on the Saints in 79 as well, was one of their leading scorers, and they won the title that, but I don't think he actually played in the GF

Wrong again Kobe.
"Among the players on the 1979 and 1980 championship teams were Larry Sengstock, Robbie Cadee, Tony Barnett, Danny Morseau, Steve Breheny and the amazing American Rocky Smith."
From the official Melb Utd website.
http://www.melbourneutd.com.au/pages/35366-history-history.

Wrong again Kobe.
"Among the players on the 1979 and 1980 championship teams were Larry Sengstock, Robbie Cadee, Tony Barnett, Danny Morseau, Steve Breheny and the amazing American Rocky Smith."
From the official Melb Utd website.
http://www.melbourneutd.com.au/pages/35366-history-history.
No wonder people pull you up all the time with your so knowledgeable knowledge. Generally wrong.

He was on the Saints in 79 as well, was one of their leading scorers, and they won the title that, but I don't think he actually played in the GF

Pretty sure you were just off by a year - Morseu was on the Saints in 1980.

Actually I think my guess is wrong. Someone else have a crack.

Yeah I would guess Danny Morseu as well. St Kilda Saints - 1979 NBL Champs.

"It's still a coffee, even if it has milk in it."

Yep, good point, well done Jay, that's pretty much quote of the year.

As far as heritage is concerned it's interesting that a lot of DNA tests don't actually measure Australian Aborigine. We should all be proud of our heritage as it's generally unlikely that you are 100% of something. I did mine recently. 50% British & Irish, 35% Western European, 10% Scandinavian and 5% Eastern European. Could be worse.....

Thanks Isaac for not locking the thread that insight from Jay was the kind of response I was hoping to find once you filter through the crap you find some good posts.

Yeah don't tell Kobewanker.
I don't know. Morseau?

Spot Quiz. First player (s) of indigenous heritage to have played for a winning team in a GF in Aust Nat leagues nbl, wnbl , or/and USA WNBA, include year and team for bonus point.

Some experts here are truely pathetic. Patrick has Torres straight heritage on his dad's side , and aboriginal on his mum's. Only been reported in the local, national and international press for about 15 years.

Tim Duggan 1996 Gold Coast Rollers.
Great kid .

I was just about to lock the thread to finish the pedantic arguing, but glad I didn't. Thanks Jay.

That speaks to a rather large misunderstanding of biology.

Can confirm koberulz is of 100% wanker descent.

I can't be "wrong again still" because one requires me being wrong about a different thing, and the other requires me being wrong about the same thing.

And neither applies because I wasn't wrong the first time.

But you get one Internet Point for the Mills thing, so good for you.

Mills is from the Torres Strait KR.So wrong again. Still.

If we are going "Indigenous", don't forget Kerry Williams from the Taipans.

Is it just they prefer AFL?

I assume you're the same anon who in the Cal Bruton thread is whining about me thinking I know more than you despite not actually rebutting any of my arguments?

At least here you're making an argument, even if it's completely wrong.

Don't tell KR Jawai is aboriginal Isaac.
KR said "Jawai isn't Aboriginal"
Indigenous sums it up.

Demos as well? In that case there were four in the league simultaneously in 2012 with him, Mills, and the Cedar brothers.

8 teams with 8 local players per team. 64 spots. Indigenous population estimated to be about 3% of the broader Australian population, so 1-2 players within a set of around 64. Jawai is one current representative.

People have mentioned other recent players: George, Cedars, Demos, Mills, etc.

There were at least two for a period of a few years not all that long ago - there were three for some of the 2012 season - and even expecting two requires Aboriginals to go into basketball at the same rate as others.

yet there is almost always zero, so something is up

Does anything have to be up with it? If Aboriginal people were represented in the NBL at the same rate as in the entire population, there would be 1.9 Aboriginal players in the NBL.

Was looking at a list of aboriginal sports people Kobe. Its the only list I could find.

So we're saying there is none? Whats up with that?

KR to expert again. The Mattic of Hoops.

AJ Ogilvey and Casper Ware

Chris Patton according to a Cairns Post article recently.

Change it to "Indigenous" and ask again...

Deba George plagued for cairns

Pretty sure its just blanchfield. Jawai torres.

Deba george didnt play nbl but is aboriginal.

There is an aboriginal team that plays the nz Maori team every year but dont think they had anyone from the nbl playing.

I think the cedar brothers were but not in nbl

Deba George another one I think

If you've got it in you then you’re Indigenous. You obviously don’t know how Indigenous and native systems work.

This is a very typical statement made by non-indigenous (and most usually white people) who try to break us down in to percentages and castes to decide if we’re white enough to be “white”.

LO,whoa buddy, unless you have a crystal ball shoved up your tailend,then unless its obvious to the eye nobody knows do they

thought this was a question beinging asked about aboriginal players in the NBL,perhaps you should have asked 'how many indigenous'players are currently in the NBL'
frankly it should not matter ,I see a player not the colour of their skin when I watch

“Other than Nate Jawai, there are definitely no players running around who look Indigenous. I guess there could always be a couple white players that claim heritage.”

If you’ve got it in you then you’re Indigenous. You obviously don’t know how Indigenous and native systems work.

This is a very typical statement made by non-indigenous (and most usually white people) who try to break us down in to percentages and castes to decide if we’re white enough to be “white”.

Jawai isn't Aboriginal and Mills isn't in the NBL, so I'm not sure what list you're looking at.

Googling hasn't gotten me any further in this research. Just list Jawai and Patty Mills.

So if we're talkimg straight down the middle aboriginal who we got?

Is Tamuri Wigness an aboriginal ?

People not knowing he's not Aboriginal doesn't make him Aboriginal.

He's not but most people don't know to differentiate between Indigenous and Aboriginal, he's Torres Strait Islander.

I don't believe Jawai is Aboriginal.

greg hire

I think he has too.

Forgot Jawai still played tbh.