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proud

Years ago

Best and worst lineups for SF matchups

Great work Andrew, glad to see someone do that and I kinda wish I had your job, I love stats!

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andrewbprice

Years ago

@D.20 Those tables have a sample size limit, so lineups which have played fewer than 30 possessions together against that team are not shown (as specified at the bottom of the graphic I tweeted). This means that high usage players will be in the same groups together as they're the ones on the court most of the time. If you'd like the full data showing how development players or smaller, less used lineups were played it's over on the website.

Lineup analysis is a very valid and well used process nowadays, although in the case of this and as mentioned by OP the sample size is very small so take this with a grain of salt. It's more for interest's sake than anything.

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Anonymous

Years ago

In addition to small sample size, etc, I just don't think the fundamental analysis is valid?

How is it that the best and worst line-ups from all teams contain mostly the same players?

You can't tell me that the MU lineup is worse that one containing all bench/DPs?

What cut-offs have you used?
Do Kenny and Moller get singled out only because they are good enough to play quality minutes?

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andrewbprice

Years ago

Just to add further to this, I have just released the full lineup data for all NBL teams over on SpatialJam.com

There are also the individual player on-court metrics in a separate table.

Really interested in hearing people's takes from the data.

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Anonymous

Years ago

Absolutely no surprise that the momentum killer Kenny is the difference between best and worst line ups for the Wildcats.

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Isaac

Years ago

Does anyone know a good place to play social b.ball on Saturday or Sunday afternoons or evenings? My team and I use to play at Flinders Uni on Sunday nights but they are changing there nights to Mondays which the majority of my team can not play.

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