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Cairns coach candidates

"We're so sorry for providing actual sources. Where are yours? thought so."
An article stating a rumour isn't factual in any way, shape, or form.
Just another "reporter" quoting something he probably read here.

Righto.

Never heard of him. Which club is he with atm?

Kevin Bartlett, also known as Hungry in his playing days.

Who's KB?

We're so sorry for providing actual sources. Where are yours? thought so.

Anon #676127 how does it feel to be so so utterly wrong?

Cotton on $600K...really? Please do not speculate.

Facts would be useful yes, yet then you go and name Liam Flynn as a potential new Taipans head coach. Maybe go and re-read your own advice.

agree with the above post re GorJ entirely, 100%

also need to point out that His teams were allowed to exceed the salary cap in at least 2 seasons, each time two clubs got rolled into one under him the NBL allowed the "new" club to significantly and officially exceed the cap.

He did take a long time to get success, and I've never been sure he was anything more than a coach who made his exceptionally fit players push the refs into letting them foul on defense.

as an OZ coach I think he was only slightly better than barry barnes, on the presumption that he would have told SH to pass the damn ball in 2000, and may well have played Maher into a good international PG, and we would have scored a medal.

A good coach when he has enough superior (or at least significantly above average) players that he can prepared to the nth degree pre-game,so that he did not have to contribute to the win on game night by making coaching adjustments on the fly. IMHo

Usedahoop - Gotcha!

Chaz thinking 4,500 = 13,000 is a classic.

Oh and nice factoid kr.

Yes they cut their staff down from 47 to 39. Plus one less asst coach so they now only have 6 Assts.

“You think that because the Cats changed stadium Jack changed the amount he spends on the team? Foolish.”

Um yes that’s exactly what he did. Filling a 13,000 seat stadium takes more money and effort than filling a 4,500 seater. And its not just on court costs - they cut costs in their final year at Challenge to make sure the first year at the new Arena was a success.

I believe Trevor Gleeson is the only Wildcats coach to ever lose a playoff series in which both Damian Martin and Shawn Redhage were at full health, but I've forgotten most of the 2015 season to be honest.

Gleeson had better imports than Bevo which indicates more spending. Latest example how about Cotton on $600k? That indicates spend.

and you know the budget how? "Exact pot" way to simplify things

Bevo was with the Cats while still at Challenge for some of his time there when they didn't have the gameday revenue. Also lower calibre imports. Again you are comparing apples with oranges and clutching at straws. Of course we can't compare coaches because they can't be at the same time at the same club but to compare Bevo's previous stint is being naive of the differences.

Orbit

I added to the dialogue you started from Ferris Bueller’s Day Off.

Anon #897 he didn't get renewed as the Cats got better. You are comparing two different four year periods. Really that dumb?

Anon #898 really? His highlight was his time coaching the Razorbacks not Hawks. How long have you been following NBL?

It really is Dumb and Dumber in here!

That's because he didn't get his contract renewed. Keep up.

No he had his pick of top players who flocked his way due to being Boomers coach

#876 he didn't have Boomers he just chose his own Kings players for the Boomers. Key difference.

Jamie O'Loughlin, already there and has plenty of experience. Was successful at SEABL, then an assistant at Perth before coming to Cairns too!

Was sacked from Perth.

goorj was a masterful coach when he had the entire boomers team playing for him. funny that.

To get this thread back on topic I would like to see what Gleeson could do at Cairns so people would be able to contrast/compare. And yes I know he was in Tville but they had bigger budgets than the current Taipans relative to that era's cap spaces (which there is none now).

and to dismiss Goorjian as being bad in game early in his career when he was masterful at it during the Kings three peat strikes me as odd. you've cherry picked the earlier part of his career which he became a genius at later to discredit him? Also re: Westover nice political answer which you ended off by agreeing with me.

paul if you put any current experienced coach (Joey, Fearne, Lemanis, Vickerman, Bevo) (obviously not Gaze or Henare) in Perth at the time I believe they would also win as many titles as Gleeson. I don't think that is an outrageous statement but the heat I get on here for it implies people either don't understand the point being made/are overly emotional/don't understand the structure for success Perth had in place as a club.

Jamie O'Loughlin, already there and has plenty of experience. Was successful at SEABL, then an assistant at Perth before coming to Cairns too!

You all are underestimating the influence Downer had on the recruitment of Gliddon, Steindl & McCarron.

Don't forget he was the Head Coach of the Uni Games team both Cam & Clint played on before they were signed by Cairns.

Food for thought.

what about a seabl coach stepping up? Richard Hill sure has the runs on the board from that league. taking his team from a basket case for many ears to 5 conference championships in a row and 3 of the last 4 seabl titles. also has some nbl assistant experience.

Tragardh is the next great coach coming through. I’d like to see him get an NBL assistant coach gig next season

Damm so dumb arses here.

Orbit

Um, he's sick. My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Ferris pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious.

Use dahoop your point??

Who is Geordie? Damm so dumb arses here.

U don't say.....

So if Gleeson only won those titles because of all the resources at his disposal, by extension anon you'd be arguing Beveridge also can't coach? Given the fact he hasn't won a title outside of Perth??

Orbit

Um, he's sick. My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Ferris pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious.

Al Westover had two titles. Nuff said. Any joker with the backing behind him can win. paul you were close to the Tigers during that era so you will have to concede this point.

Re: Gordie

He deserves another shot and has experience with the other regional club. Remember he came close to being the only coach to win a title with an import less team back in the day also.

Let's use an example. Gleeson has three titles - great. Who else is in the minimum three NBL titles club? Goorjian for one. Goorjian though is a coaching genius, whereas Gleeson isn't, just because they are all in the min. three titles club doesn't mean anything. Gleeson anywhere else would have zero, and other coaches if they were in the same spot would've won also. JFC it's not that hard to understand. Look at Lemanis - wins three also right time, right place with good ownership and management and $$$. Now he is being found out. Yet not long ago people wouldn't say a word against him either. Gleeson is Lemanis v2.

You don't think with a different hire the 'Cats don't win those three titles?

Who are the good assistants out there? Big move by Neilson to leave Spurs to come home, would he uproot them to go to small old cairns?
Then you'd have the Gordie and Joyce along with Molly.
Dennis if he wants it should be lock but dark horse could be Shannon Seebohm.
Pity the disaster that was Demopolous rules out Americans, but could a European be a left field appointment, apart from cultural their style could be conducive.

Gordie.

Who is Geordie? Damm so dumb arses here.

Geordie anyone?

Just bought a house in Cairns.

Bueller, Bueller...........

Al would need to change his crocodile skin shoes to snakeskin.

Marty clarke
Cj bruton
Anthony stewart
Corey williams
Sean miller
Lavar ball
Al westover

It's a fact.

who is this fool who keeps bringing up weak period of the league as if it has anything to do with coaching?

He made elim/semis and always lost them in the weakest period of the league. It was so weak that Homicide was a star player.

stint? I know why.