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NBL salaries, bench players/role players...

Development players aren't training players. As each NBL club has training players below the development players and the training players are the ones who get paid nothing but expected to be there as bodies for the first teamers to bang against at every training session.

So before you cry about the woes of development players spare a thought for the training players who are a wrung below that.

Thanks for the reply Isaac. Don't want to have an argument about it. I was just sharing what I knew about one player & I am sure some DP's are paid more. However, this kid was going into his 3rd year as a DP.
I'm not saying it is right or wrong. I'm just sharing what I know.

IMO they are just being used as training players and are probably never going to progress or play in the NBL. Yet they can't see that. They have delusions of grandeur.

As for the apprentice scenario or TAFE/Uni argument.

1. They are not in TAFE or Uni. They are an employee. Yes, this is their choice.

2. As for the apprentice scenario - I just checked a 1st year bricklaying apprentice is listed as between $500 to $800/week, depending on the industry. Approximately $12k to $18k for 6 months & that didn't include any of the perks (Travel, Site allowance, etc)

Listen anon 676490, just because you have a friend of a friend tell you one thing, doesn’t mean the same for all. Some get more some get less, and it’s dependent on their market value. From first hand experience, DP’s playing SEABL/other get more than ‘a couple of thousand and if they don’t, they need to hire a new agent. I still maintain you have no real idea.

The affordability argument is not valid. Just look at players' salaries overall.

So three years ago the salary bill for the NBL's players was ~$8 million, with the minimum salary ~$40,000. Now the salary bill is well north of $10 million, with the league proposing to increase it by at least $800,000 with 8 'one-and-done' players next year.

So if the league can afford something above a 40% hike in players' salaries in 3 years, why couldn't it afford more than a 12%-15% hike in minimum wage? Because it doesn't need to and it doesn't want to.

The league's owner has invested the additional salaries to get big name players into the league. He expects that to pay off in increased revenue from paying customers and sponsors. Increasing the minimum wage is not necessary for that investment strategy.

I suspect the NBL Players' Association hasn't done made an issue of this because the investment strategy is yet to pay off. i.e., the league's long term viability is still questionable. They wouldn't want to threaten their members' livelihoods by pissing off the person who's currently propping it up.

This is the reality of the entertainment business. The big names get the big bucks, because that's what gets the customers in. The people at the bottom get SFA because they've got nothing to bargain with but their willingness to do whatever they have to, to break into the business.

Regularly had to attend multiple of training sessions per day which made it very hard to even get a part time job to supplement his income.

How do these "kids" survive? On the good grace of their parents.

turning over enough*

So? No one is entitled to $X if a business isn't turning enough. That is what the NBL is - a struggling business. You can't feel entitled to more $ as a lower tier player in the NBL just because you want to play professionally. The world doesn't work like that.

None of you really have much idea other than speculation. Unless you have cold hard facts, stop spitting out numbers. Each team structures their pay scales differently as you would imagine with small market vs large market teams. Most of the players that are “living below the poverty line” also get paid in the offseason through other league and camps etc. A player can also structure their pay in many different ways.

"Players 9,10 & 11 in most team will be on 45k including super. Living below the poverty line"
How does that even make sense? Living below the poverty line. You do know that most contracts in the NBL aren't for a full year right? So many numpties with such expert opions that really have never understood how the game works.
$45K with sick leave, holidays and super is a bad deal for a year even? Utter bollocks.

So? A DP gets peanuts because the harsh economic reality of the NBL and its clubs is that it doesn't generate enough revenue to pay more. What do you want them to do - pay more and then go bust? If it's not enough money then don't play NBL. Simple.

Don't take that as being all clubs pay that for DP spots.

Also, what about the development players chasing their dream?

I have it on very good authority, my son played with one of them, that in his last year he was offered $5k for the season.

Regularly had to attend multiple of training sessions per day which made it very hard to even get a part time job to supplement his income.

How do these "kids" survive? On the good grace of their parents.

I think you'll find most contracts include October thru end of March, in case the team makes finals.

I would guess most teams come together one or two months before the season. The majority of the team that is, maybe not the imports.

So I think their contract is more like 7 months min and possibly 8 months. Just my opinion.

Plus it's a six month gig. $45K for six months is $90K per year extrapolated.

So? You can't expect more if the league isn't generating revenue. If you don't like it don't play NBL.

Yeah money for the last couple of players on a list is pretty bad. My mum got told years ago from a former players parent that "he'd be earning a lot more money if he was working at Macca's instead of playing in the NBL"

Larkins PAYS the 36ers to play for them. Well, he should.

Could be out of date a bit but I know development players once got $400/game on the bench.

Pay luxury tax? Ha ha ha ha ha!

$45-400k. Not required for a full year, depending on the coach/team.

For Garlepp, when did he sign his contract? Could be $80-100k if he was rising at the time. His future scope in basketball would be sub-$30k you'd guess - NZ NBL, SEABL, etc.

Minimum salary is $45,000.

They wouldn't do it. Everyone would be able to see how much more the Melbourne guys were on with no salary cap (and no fund redistribution as originally stated).

stop being silly anonymous, get over it . many fans are nosey and want to pry on sport stars salaries hence why the NBA publishes them as promotes internist in the NBA and many fans are nosey and like tabloid trash or want to know how much sports stars get. And kids get inspired to pick up a basketball as there meal ticket out of poverty if they know big bucks when they grown up.
Society is a nosey culture with lots of nosey types and nosey hoop fans you have to get over it, and the NBA has gladly accommodated the nosey fans unlike the NBL..

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