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NBL Grand Final Game 2: 36ers vs United, March 18

I knew you would be able to help - thanks Skip!

Tornado - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ujRptOjoAQ

Does anyone know the name of the song that was used in the 36ers intro piece - TIA?

From previous posts .
Perth is a long way from Adelaide and Melbourne and Wildcats along way behind Sixers and United this year and both are facts .
Great series happening.
Do not do not tie Homicide up with Sixers . We do not want him on side or any way attached to us.

Exer. Phys. Manu

At least in the physiology field

I encourage it for the very reasons you pointed out -- great for the game, fans, and players.

It's more important to the game to have that type of talk than to appease one person (me) / a small minority in a fan base of tens or hundreds of thousands.

Udog, you a doctor ain't you?

Wouldn't think it was a dislocation from there unless his arm was moving up very quickly.

Impinged supraspinatus or maybe AC joint? Shoulders have a lot going on. Pretty complex.

You encourage and dont like it? Im lost on that. Its great for the game, its great for the fans and the players. Ware either comes back and talks with his game, or gets schooled and the series is done.

Also, one of Homicide's recent Tweets sums up why I don't like this season's Sixers.

"This shit is over in 4. Casper got his as (sic) handed to him today!" -Shannon Shorter

I encourage this type of talk, I just personally don't like it.

Yeah he is quick and long. And he knows his way around dribble moves.

Much like my question about Ware, can anyone provide an educated guess as to Childress' injury and it's prognosis?

So in the contact that Josh hurt his shoulder, you will see that the defensive player ( Barlow0 neither jumps, reaches across or moves, so no defensive foul.

If Barlow had jumped and or reached, 99% chance that a defensive foul would have been called

IMHO Childress launches/slides himself into an open gap immediately next to the defense ( or between the defense and the rim) and the defensive player then reaches trying to slap the ball, (which chill has put out tantalizingly close to where the defense thinks they can reach to (300+ NBA games helps here)), which results in the defensive player's body moving into in to the same space which means the defense (usually) causes the contact, that results in a foul. When the defense just goes up ( or away) from chill and has a higher reach ( usually not) then Josh gets cleanly blocked.

If you attack and get fouled it's a foul. If a player gets beat and doesn't have position that's their fault.

Good job by Casey calling the game today as always.

I see your point, but it seems like he is half out of control and launching/diving into the defender, initiating contact. Surely there's some kind of rule or interpretation that says you must be under control or sort of stay in your cylinder or more less to get the whistle

Harvey works well when he’s third man.

Slotting in Redhage to a GF was a woeful decision. Surely it wasn’t due to a lack of others being unavailable.

Pretty simple Manu, he gets his head and shoulders past the defender and then they have no option but to create contact with his side/move into him. It looks like a foul every time and probably is.

I don't want to put my name in that ridiculous thread above, so I'll post here...

What do referees see with Childress? Every time he goes to the rack when isolated, he gets fouled. He just leans into the D and gets the call every time. What does he do that others don't?

Wouldn't be surprised if Childress is done. Boone looked like a cork so would say he'll be fine and Caper too with some rest will be good to go.
Will be a shame if Childress is done, will change the complexion of the series entirely

You didn't consider this a scoop Manu? ;)

Boone out (calf flare up), Chris Patton in.

I wish there were an NBL version of Shams or Woj to give us scoops. We probably won't get an update on the three injured guys until tip-off next game

I agree with Uncle Phil a good thing the series is spaced out so much allowing players to recuperate from injuries somewhat although clearly Ware wasn't ready to play today.

Hopefully he, Boone & Childress will all be fit for friday night.

And you not only need your guns firing but you need guys playing roles- Barlow, Hooley, Andersen did that in game 1

Adelaide I thought would hit back. And they did.

We're on our way to 5 and it has been a good tussle so far

"Does the Adelaide crowd know it's a 5 game series?"

I'm fairly certain they knew that they did not want a 3 game series ;)

Yeah I'm just speculating

But speculating and thinking about these things is fun. If I didn't enjoy that then I wouldn't bother with a site like this

Crowds have an impact on the refs too. Thousands of people jeering, booing and creating an intimidating environment. That absolutely has an impact. Human psychology makes that very clear

Good thing is- for United- the next game is back at Hisense

As I see it, the bottom line is this: Ware and Boone are Melbourne's most important players. Goulding is also quite important. Wesley would be a distant 4th. Then the rest.

We can talk about X's and O's but at the end of the day those guys need to fire for United to win. If they're not firing, for whatever reason- hampered by injury, foul trouble, whatever- United will have a tough time of it against this talented and deep Adelaide lineup.

Great win by the Sixers, the defensive intensity was there from the start and that fed the offense. Awesome atmosphere too with a very loud crowd, can’t wait for games 3 and 4! Moore and Deng both cane up big today - Deng particularly showing why he should have got more minutes in game 1. Hopefully Childress. Ware and Boone can use the 5 day break to be fit for Friday (one of the good things I guess of the series being spread out so much). It has been a bit unfortunate to have those 3 players suffering injuries in the first two games of what could be a classic finals series.

I agree about the commentary. Every raves about a Harvey. Can’t stand his commentary

LV enough today. Nothing is fixed or even close to it. The best team
Won and won with ease. Hush now go get ready for game 3.

Anyway who was watching the tv coverage did they elaborate at all of chills shoulder?

Vickerman got go back to rotating his subs through, not chucking adnam and hooley on together, some of the rotating was non sencical, and go back to team first, it looked like he thought Casey could win it on his own.

That commentary team was woeful. Harvey, redhage and Newley. Are you kidding me.

And when I say fixed, I don't mean "guaranteed "- that's impossible in a sport like basketball. All I mean is someone involved has some intentionality around the aim of getting a certain result

Obviously that was a bit tongue in cheek

No one can know for sure whether a given game was fixed. It's always speculation

But if you did want to manipulate a result, you wouldn't need many people in on it. Even 2 refs could very easily ensure an 85-90% likelihood of a desired result, given the other surrounding circumstances in a game like today's

Well done 6ers! And a big shout out to all the Perth fans for making this thread that much longer.

"LK knows what he's doing.

"If someone goes up 2-0 in a best of 5, that's bad for business"

If you believe the whole thing is set up why do you watch?

I find it amazing the conspiracy theorists that come out whenever a 'Best of' Series in nay sport either looks like it might or does go to it's maximum number of games. When a series is swept they go crawling back into the hole they live in behind the couch!
What is even more incredible is how all the players and officials involved in the game keep quiet about 'the fix' for the rest of their lives.

All I can say is game 4 is going to be an absolute banger!

Can we get back to homicide and carfino commentating, that was woeful. Get that path bloke doing the calling.

Wildcats would not beat these two teams with 1 disinterested and 1 subpar role player import.

Yeah I reckon Childress will be fine. Textbook stinger

Manu No true basketball fan wants anyone injured. They want refs showing equity both ends, players all fit and see a great game that is not boring. Win or lose thats what we all want. No excuses with injuries. Melbourne won with many key players with early fouls on Friday with a similar scoreline so I don’t see the difference with who was on court for each time. Thats just making excuses. The sixers fans and coaches called their team and ripped in to them instead of blaming others. Thats how we role. We know the game well enough to put it all in perspective and they bottled in at times and lost. Today they showed they have heart and responded.

"Refs carried these teams to the finals and it's showing. Wildcats are superior to both"

Refs didn't beat you by 35 points in game 1 bud.

"Do you want Casper and Boone 100 per cent fit for the rest of the series?"

Sure, I'd rather play them at their best. They've been the best team all year, they don't deserve to lose due to injuries. As long as Childress is at 100% too.

On Easter Saturday there'll be a sellout at Hisense Arena- with everyone paying at least $50 a ticket.

And Larry will be grinning from ear to ear.

Adelaide to good and vickerman going back to his coaching style before Prather got hurt by playing his starters to long. Fouls 29/18 and free throws 40/16 to Adelaide in total you don’t win games against those odds.

hahaha right on cue

LK knows what he's doing.

If someone goes up 2-0 in a best of 5, that's bad for business.

After last year, another sweep was never on the cards.

This one's going to 5 games.

Adelaide fans,

Do you want Casper and Boone 100 per cent fit for the rest of the series?

Cue Shoe is on the other foot comments from Mel Bun fans. How’s it feel. Next game don’t gloat so much. You too can be beaten by the refs at an away game. Game on