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Anonymous
Years ago

Should the NBL adopt a similar no ref contact rule like AFL?

Todd

Good on ya.

Referees are paid to do a job and should be professional.

Sexual harassment should never be tolerated in a workplace.

Years ago

What I am saying is these coaches are complaining more in lieu of actually analysing the game and making adjustments because they are incapable of it. It is easier to blame someone else (refs) than to put blame on oneself.

Years ago

"erhaps if some coaches spent more time actually focussing on what their players are doing instead of "working" the referees, then they may just see what the issues are and be able to make changes to defensive and offensive issues."

The coaches who are the greatest offenders of this do it because they aren't capable of adjusting in game. That's why they whine no matter what. One particular coach comes to mind as a perfect example.

Anonymous
Years ago

I remember a good mate of mind slap me on my bum. I gave him a t.

Years ago

Was it Gary Ervin who shoved a ref a few years back and was then surprised when he got a technical?

Years ago
The refs usually suck up to the players and do the "player x if you continue to do that crap" It's because the current crop of refs have lost the ability to relate to players..
*provides example of ref relating to players*
*complains that current refs don't have the ability to relate to players*

The contact doesn't bother me at all. They're co-producing the product that fans watch.

Part of the game is being flexible enough to keep the spectacle going where appropriate. That is, provide warnings about arm bars and having two hands on the opponent, etc, rather than immediately call every touchy foul and constantly stop the game. In a noisy stadium, if a ref or player thinks it's more natural to have a hand on someone's back when standing beside them, so be it.

The AFL example is players contacting an umpire, potentially to intimidate. The NBL examples given are of familiarity.

In the AFL, you can often hear mic'ed up umpires speaking in a familiar/friendly way with players when explaining calls. I think it's a positive thing.
Years ago

LOL. The AFL is so PC in the future players may need to ask for consent prior to a tackle.

Years ago

The NBL needs to stay right away from the AFL...

Years ago

I'm sorry but I have not noticed any high fiving or even friendly body contact between refs and players. I think I'm in the majority with this one also.

B
Years ago

"So you ask the question about a no-contact rule, that protects umpires from being knocked over.
But what you're really cranky about is a ref supposedly giving a player a high-five (that wasn't actually a high-five anyway)?"

I just think in general it's something that's not necessary. I wouldn't say I'm 'cranky' about it, that Wesley one was just one game in particular I remember watching thinking it's not a great look for the league. Plenty of other games though with refs and players putting arms around each other and I've seen others mention it before (on here too) and how it doesn't look great. Like i said it's a relatively minor issue but something that they could easily stop.

Years ago

And I can understand why. Who would want to have a beer with Vaughan Mayberry?

Years ago

The refs usually suck up to the players and do the "player x if you continue to do that crap" It's because the current crop of refs have lost the ability to relate to players..
There are very few good refs out there now and unlike the ol days payers and refs sat down together and had a beer and talked life.
Like so many other sports the refs are a protected species. It's pitiful.

B
Years ago

"I've never seen a ref give a player a high five in my life."

Technically what I saw was more of a low five lol. Happened with Wesley and a ref during a Wildcats home game last season.

Anonymous
Years ago

I’ve never seen a ref give a player a high five in my life.

B
Years ago

""I just think it's a bad look for a league" - how so if it doesn't influence the calls that are made or negatively impact player's demeanor?"

Refs are only out there to officiate and remain completely impartial. I don't like the look of refs trying to be best friends with the players and coaches (some are much worse than others with it). You can explain something to them but is it necessary to put your arms around them and give them high fives and pats on the back? Imo it brings in doubts about the integrity of the refs when they look like they're trying to be best buds with everyone, not the most professional look. Like i said its not a huge deal or issue, but one of those minor things that I feel makes the NBL look a bit less professional.

B
Years ago

Interesting article in the age regarding future NBL expansion.

http://www.theage.com.au/sport/basketball/green-men-cant-jump-20120121-1qbhu.html

 

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