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Adelaide vs Brooklyn regarding Creek release

' We're examining whether we could get something for Creek .
What page is page 15 on . ? '

Now way it would have been $400k.

Thats more than T-Ferg's whole contract with the Sixers.

Sixers lose out on $400k, lol, shocking front office.

The version on Ferguson I heard was that the 36ers cleared him to OKC then asked for the transfer fee. OKC said yeah nah thanks we are good. That was the end of 400k to the 36ers that would have been paid had the money come through before the clearance.

LK likes this idea hence the next stars or whatever he plans to do with high school kids in the NBL.

That's what the Sixers thought.

What was the deal with Ferguson? Surely the contract he signed with us would have expired before the draft?

Adelaide missed this opportunity when they had Ferguson. Now they are trying it with creek.

"Brisbane were trying to keep the club afloat and get commitments from players but could only pay what was on the contract, not all the extras. Bruton could see they wouldn't be competitive and he'd be getting average money on an average team so got out."

Many of the players were willing to go ahead with the pay decrease until they found out the proposal put forward by JvG didn't include the man himself taking a pay cut! A classic NBL moment.

Oh and nice memory #783.

Correct. Sydney to Brisbane move was technically via CSKA Moscow where he had signed but it fell through.

Wasn't the Europe incident around his move to Brisbane from Sydney? He went to NZ after the Bullets folded.

Well in fairness to CJ he did say he was going "overseas" :P

That is correct, that is what happens. These are typically gentleman agreements where all 3 parties know exactly what is going on. It wasn't uncommon for NBL pre-season games that cross over with SEABL needing multi transfers back and forth in the same week.

Remember Bradtke was released to go to Europe with the expectation he would comeback to Adelaide upon return, thats an example of what can go wrong for a club. Also CJ using his Euro out to go to NZ in another example of how a player can opt out of a contract.

NBL players in the past have played in state leagues or Europe or Puerto Rico during the NBL off season during the middle of their three year NBL contracts? How does that work? I would've thought loan similar to FIFA.

No such thing as loan deals or off season contracts in the world of FIBA. NBL players have to be cleared to play in ABA / SEABL etc. Perhaps the 3/4 CEO's that have been through the 36ers in the last few years have lost the details of how these things work.

this is truly embarrassing

"It's also possible that his German contract was an off-season contract, and therefore didn't require a release? Not exactly sure how those works, but lots of players play for multiple teams when contracted."

It's called a loan deal.

On one hand I can see no reason why Creek would have exercised his player option before summer league/NBA workouts etc.

On the other hand, I can also see a situation where he may have done so to get security for the upcoming year (As opposed to not exercising the option, not making the NBA and trying to come back into the NBL late when the $ or the spaces aren't available). And in exercising that option he may have well said 'if i do make an NBA team I'll just pay any buy-out out of my own pocket' (i.e. whats 100k on a $1m min).

Either Creek has a contract or he doesn't.

Seems the 36ers don't know that basic point. Sounds like Creek had a player option for 18/19 and therefore his 36ers and NBL contract finished at either at the end of the season or end of the financial year.

The 36ers cleared creek to go to Germany in any event so that ends his 36ers contract in any event. His rights would then be with the last club he played for which is the German club and hence why they were the ones to release him to the NBA , not the 36ers.

The very rough version I've heard over the months has been something like:

- club talks to Creek about returning and he's keen
- when some semblance of contract finally arrives, the numbers are lower
- Creek is "wait, what?"
- Euro opportunity comes up
- NBA opportunity comes up

I'm not sure what contract the club thinks is in place?

If he has a player option, does he need to have signed it? If he was expecting an extension, why would he sign? Unless it was with the understanding it would later be torn up and replaced?

To German team would be a loan so reverts back to Sixers I assume.

I noted in the article, that the owner considered Mitch and his family as personal friends, yet the team has yet to release anything about one of their players going to an NBA opportunity. Is there anything in that?

All I know is this situation probably isn't endearing the 36ers to Creek which would make it all the more likely he doesn't come back to the club in future.

Jerry Smith, the former Waikato Pistons import from last year, made his NBA debut for the New Jersey Nets today

5 points, 3 assists and 2 steals. A good debut indeed.

I was a teammate of Jerry's and am so pleased to see him making big things, having been called up from the D-League

I remember the Breakers and other NBL teams were looking at him..But I don't think anyone realized exactly how good he was/is.

His game is suited to the NBA, as he is a killer of the pick and roll.