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Ch 9 announces DeLeon as Sixers’ 3rd import

Lets go sixers

Good luck to JW and the boys for the upcoming season. Lets go one better this year. Were with you all the way.

Although i hope Creek injunction thing all sorted and no problems

#857 as I said earlier in this thread the season in Dominican Republic hasn't ended yet so they can't announce his signing as clearance hasn't occurred.

Deleon isn't a great signing.

Agree that a pinch scorer, playing 15 minutes off the bench could be a role where he's used effectively.

You never know what will happen. Remember last year, that mediocre import with the long hair, hurt his arm and the 36ers ended up with Childress. You all thought the 36ers had no cash, but that didn't stop them signing a stud.

Deng still has serious potential- if he really steps up his game, the 36ers will be very dangerous despite not having a backcourt that's as highly rated as most.

then were has the money gone not to get a better pg

Melbourne and Sydney have money to throw at big names and stack their rosters. Unfortunately the 36ers don't. I'm glad the team was able to survive a few years back but the league is very top heavy these days and there is obviously a big divide when it comes to money spent. Joey has done a great job to get to two grand finals after taking over and the style they play is exciting to watch. Hopefully they can do well with this team too.

I'm a huge believer in Joey's building of a team, year after year he has done it. Biggest mistake he ever did was bring in Ere who was out of shape all year, unless you count round as a shape. Signing Deleon smacks of bringing in a past it player, maybe if we had some studs at both import spots and a really good local PG it might be OK. Think if we struggle out of the gate he could be first import gone and a Trice could get brought in.
But I'll believe in what joeys plan is until then.

He is a BA-owned NBL cheap era import who will now play in the LK era. Baffling really.

since his stint with Wollongong in 2012/13, he hasn't played in any significant league. He has been plying his trade in Puerto Rico and his home country

Absolutely Andrew, I was just gonna say that as DJ has also probably signed his last big money contract so to suggest the roster is worse with players potentially signing on bigger money and others being unknown is very hard to judge but I do agree that 36ers seem to be missing a stud or even a pass first point guard and Adris is neither

Shorter got numbers but he was a pretty average player. No shame in that most are but his carry on with the flexing and all that crap was tiresome from a player who was no star.

To be fair to Shorter he was really a SG without a reliable jumpshot and we brought him in to be the PG and run the show which he clearly wasn't suited for with his average decision making and poor ball handling.

Remember too Boti understandably always wants the 36ers to do well and to be seen to be doing well so talking Shorter down helps sell the current team/decision making.

What has Boti got in for Shannon Shorter? Labels him 'overrated' in a recent article and was really harsh in another. I just don't see why it's necessary to give him such a kicking on the way out and it seems selective. I liked Shorter. Sometimes you wouldn't even notice he was playing and then he has near triple double stats which surprises you. He was solid to say the least.

I thought the same a few years ago when Boti would always make mention of how Gary Ervin was a good player mostly but went missing in the grand final (paraphrase). He'd say this over and over again. But so did the whole time. Why is it necessary? Seems very selective to me, so why.

No doubt they got raises after all the money freed up from Creek who would've been on pretty good money and Childress who would've been on exceptional money. No doubt Shorter would've been on more than Deleon would likely be getting too.

The real disappointing thing with this signing is even if Deleon has signed for the minimum wage you can find kids straight out of college from smaller schools desperate to land an import gig and get experience for that money or thereabouts.

It's a very lazy signing and unlike the Ebi Ere situation it will only be acceptable if Deleon has effectively been signed as a placeholder import until a better point guard shakes free from NBA training camps and Deleon is cut before his contract becomes fully guaranteed for the rest of the season.

I suspect Deleon might've gotten some sort of verbal guarantee that that is unlikely to happen though.

I think the only way I can talk myself into Deleon is if he's used as a scorer off the bench. That means there is an awful lot of pressure on Sobey to step up this season. If Drmic and Deng also improve a lot then the Sixers could still be quite good. But chances are, they'll take a step back this season after falling one game and one freak Childress injury short of the title.

Like many Sixers fans, I'm pretty disappointed if this really is our last signing. I feel like the team we have is actually quite good, it just needed that one final, quality piece to put us in contention. Instead, if Channel 9 is correct, we've signed a guy who wasn't that good in his prime, shoots the 3 ball as badly as Shorter did and is too small for us to switch everything defensively as Joey's Sixers teams always do.

I've mentioned this in another thread, but am i right in saying that the club has had to limit their spending during the off season as opposed to what they may have had at the beggiining? If so, why? I only base that on the idea that names like Childress & Motum were being thrown around & that's even before Creek left (for sure).

I don't think Wiley would be overly cheap? Obviously a case of spending up more for that need and then getting someone established to compliment the group and Sobey is given the opportunity I'd love to see him have. So i do get the thinking behind it.

I think the real question is not if DeLeon is talented or not. He was very talented. Lots of guys are but there's something missing from player types such as DeLeon that separate him from say a Cedric Jackson. The argument should be if he truly is a right fit and if he's necessary compared to other guys you can go budget with. Personally, I don't like the signing at all. But it's true, just needs to accepted and given a chance to play out.

If Smith (forget name) from Cairns was still hanging around, i think he's a guy who could take off in that role.

Hence "Not2Hard2Guard"

Just thought I would share this.....thanks Luuuc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5oP7B1PDwU

He was top 10 in MVP voting. Sixth Man of the year. 16.4 PPG @ 41% FG, 33% 3pt, 77% FT, 3RPG, 3APG. Yeah pretty average 5 years ago.

Not2Hard2Guard

Hmmm Sobey at PG could be really really good or really really bad.

1. How talented Drmic and Deng are and how they will step up this season with more minutes and more consistent minutes.

2. The team probably has the best culture in the league which is huge.

3. We have maintained a solid core group.

4. We have a coach that continues to have successful seasons by getting the best out of the players.

5. How much depth the team has.

Some of the logic I see from these "fans" is Deleon is old at 34 and then imply we should have got Childress (35 and injury prone).

A 34 year old point guard that IMO was not that great 5 year ago."

He was top 10 in MVP voting. Sixth Man of the year. 16.4 PPG @ 41% FG, 33% 3pt, 77% FT, 3RPG, 3APG. Yeah pretty average 5 years ago.

ME's normal dribble coming from his social basketball expertise.

The initial announcement was un-inspirational, but I thought I'd sleep on it and maybe it would not feel so bad in the morning.

Sorry I don't feel any better.

I tried to be positive about this signing, I cannot.

I am now settling for being open minded to this signing.

Adris Deleon was a good player at Gold Coast, he was a decent player for the Hawks. But I just don't see him being that good anymore.

Before I am labelled a hater, let's consider what the Sixers need. We just lost our best player, and whilst I expect Drmic and Deng to absorb Creek's minutes and improve their output, there needs to be another capable guy down the stretch.

Last season Shorter was solid, Childress and Moore were very good. This year I see having Deleon as a significant downgrade to that even if Wiley is good.

We came within 1 game or 1 injury away from a Championship, so we were thereabouts but now most teams seem to have imrpoved and I can't see this as anythin gbut regressing.

I have never been a subscriber to the Jobs for Joey's Mates view, I even supported Ebi, I guess I will just have to trust Joey Wright.

we all remember Lisch giving this hack the business back in 2012/13

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5oP7B1PDwU

Antony Stewart will coach the huskies.

From Boti's latest newsletter:

Wright:
“We’re looking for a kind of floor general, a guy that can run the team, a veteran player, so a guy that we can count on,” Wright said.

“We’re still looking. We have a good feel for a few guys, but yeah, we’re still looking.”

Sounds like he's not going for an absolute gun, but someone who's been around a while and knows how to lead a team. Whether that's DeLeon, we'll see.

Aw , missed it on ch9...
ch2 were at training , seems it was the first , they interviewed wiley and joey..
no mention of deleon...
ch9 the only one reporting deleon...

i think Joey will be interested in the Tasmanian coaching job. very well resourced = Brisbane in his championship year. They want an experienced coach, to me thats him or BoyG , unless ..... Aaron Fearne with significant roster money could be very interesting.

I love your positivity Isaac, but 54 points in the Dominican Republic league doesn't exactly fill me with excitement and this has to be the least excited I have been for a season in I don't know how long?!

I do really hate this signing, and it does leave Adelaide with the worst backcourt in the league but we do have one of the best frontcourts. Hopefully Joey learns how to use it....

So Joey goes on holidays, at his own cost, that incorporates going to summer League where he signed Jacob Wiley and that isnt ok ? Cool.

This is the best they could come up with? Surely a younger fresh out of college smaller school guard would of been available at a similar price. They wont even make the top 4 with that team.

As I said in another thread, I wasn't really a fan of DeLeon at the Hawks. He can play but reminds me of how the Warriors got better when they moved on from Monta Ellis. Ellis averaged 20+ PPG with the Warriors but they had a losing record most years he was there. They went 23-43 in his last season, then 47-35 the year after he'd left.

However, being charitable, I'm assuming that money is now tight, which restricts the options, and that maybe Wright just wants a reliable option he feels he can trust, someone he's worked with before. I'm guessing the case goes: We don't need much from him, we have guys who can move the ball, we have shooters, we just need someone to run and give Sobey and Moore a seat. Maybe he goes 1/6 FG, maybe he has 25 in 20 minutes. He's not going to cause trouble.

We'll see.

Here's video of DeLeon going for 54 points in the Dominican Republic league. Lots of threes, so hard to tell where the rest of his game is at. Looks like he hit a clutch shot earlier this year to win their championship.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZ1ptH-EMz4

2 hard 2 guard is fun to watch and with him wearing a 36ers jersey, he will be all the more fun.

He's older now so I wonder if he knows what the other 4 players on the court in jerseys like his are there for yet?

Will he pass the ball at all this season?

First import sent home ?

Oh what a surprise another one of Joey Wright’s has been imports coming in. This team won’t be very good and like said above the entertainments level won’t be there. Massive steps back this season.

I think it's easy to underestimate the Moore retention too because he's a returning player. His role seems to be off the bench everywhere he goes but he can easily start and average 15-20ppg.

Like has been mentioned, improvement & reshuffling is the key here.

Well that sucks.

And I deleted the Sosa thread because it’s the same troll who posted Trice before that and well after anyone with a clue knew it was Deleon.

At least this forum will be entertaining with all the heat on 6ers come the season starting

What a budget ass team, gonna be a long season ahead

earlier today someone wrote Edgar sosa was signing

Just seems odd.

Imagine how much more grumpier Joey will be this season!

A 34 year old point guard that IMO was not that great 5 year ago.

#budgetSixers

Out Chill creek shorter
In wiley deleon.
No playoffs this year. Cant see anotger championship on the horizon

We are screwed then.

I managed to get to the first game of the 5 match quarterfinal series last night in Barcelona. Barca jumped to an early lead of around ten points in the first quarter and apart from a short period in the fourth when it got back to 3, they were never really headed.

Nate Jawai, playing for Unics, was very impressive. Was generally the main focus on offence, often they would run a double high pick for the pg and with nate then rolling to the post. He looks in great shape, top scored for Unics with 15, and was basically unstoppable once he had the ball down low. He also had a bunch of rebounds but then again had a bunch of really stupid mistakes and turnovers too...He was a beast at times and other times really looked like he lacked confidence...

Joe Ingles, playing for Barca didn´t really impact the game. He probably played about 5-8 minutes and never really got the opportunity to get going. He was backing up their gun import Pete Mickeal at the 3 who really got going, so it´s not really a reflection on his game that he didn´t do much.

For the Olympics, I would say Jawai should be a lock, he really was almost unstoppable in the low post once he had the ball in hand and was active on defence and the boards...Would be great for 15-20 minutes off the bench.

A scary thought for mine though was Joe Ingles, the fact that this guy is already a lock for the Aussie team and possibly our starting 3, can´t crack decent minutes for barca. Grantd they might be the best team in Europe, but still just goes to show how far off we are from Spain in terms of talent that there was 5 or 6 spanish guys ahead of him just on this team...