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36ers file injunction to stop Creek’s NBA clearance

Also I think fans have a sense of ownership (maybe not the right word) with regards to Mitch having him been with us for such a long time and seeing the work he has put in. And now should things not work out like we all hope there is little chance he will come back and play for us.

@Reality

Fans are used to this since Bradtke going to Portland mid season, Cattalini going to Europe and Gaze going to college instead of playing a full NBL season. A multitude of examples exist.

You suggesting that this is new is laughable. Only a few years ago 36ers released DJ to Europe so it's very familiar to 36er fans in particular. It's been happening for years.

What isn't new is legal action against the face of the club, ostracising the player ,sponsors and fans in the process.

If a new owner wants to start setting up contracts to include buy outs etc thats fine but it cant be done retrospectively. It sure as hell cant be handled the way it has been handled by the 36ers on this occasion.

The funny thing is the way we are all forgetting that he hasn't even made the final roster yet and still has a lot of work to do to get there.

I mean yes technically its a release to the Nets - but in reality its a release to go attend a few trainings with the potential to prove yourself for something more.

Could potentially be a lot of bad publicity for nothing.

Now you have Bogut saying he has heard that at least one team has gone after him already should he return and Ingles saying he knows one club he is not coming back to. They really have screwed the pooch here, don't think they really thought this through.

The crux of the matter is STILL why he was cleared to sign in Germany (was this just the regular short term end-of-season deals like other players?) and whether or not he took up the player option or not (sorry, it sounds convincing, but until either party confirms it, anon saying something is still just anon). I can't see why Creek would take up the player option without an increase in pay with the profile that he had and the amount of cash that other NBL teams at the very least would have thrown at him... it doesn't make sense...

If someone would just officially clear up whether he was signed with Adelaide or not, then I think everyone will be happy... well, internet happy, which is still at least 30% outraged, but it would be enough...

Either way, the 36ers have stuffed this up from a perception point of view with crap communication, as always...

Worst run team in Nbl, can hear it now in Brisbane, challenge accepted!!!

Why did BA get potentially involved? That is dirty.

It's not even a true NBA contract. Sixers are just being douches as usual. Absolutely crazy. Worst run team in the NBL bar none.

Pretty sure the NBA club can payout to a limited amount and then the player has to pay the difference. It this case the dollar amount is small. Even if the sixers are doing the right thing (I don't think they have) the have botched up the publicity side of things so bad that the damage has been wide ranging.

PeterJohn, and what part of that contract does it say that the NBA team has to pay the NBL team? it is all NBL team and player negotiating a release. Last time Creek played it was not even for Adelaide.

To the anon above

You have no idea about the situation or any facts involved. Creek had the player option which means he doesn't have a contract if he chooses that path. He didn't pick up the option and was cleared regardless. The 36ers low balled him well below what others on the team get paid despite being the teams best player.

There is only one person to blame for all of this.

Thanks for explaining it.

You would think "NBA out clause" will be spelled out exactly what it encompasses now in future NBL contracts with the advent of NBA two-way deals.

Not brain surgery? He was cleared to play in Germany by FIBA, which could not happen if there was a contract in place with Adelaide. Adelaide are trying to get something out of a situation where there is nothing. If it was cut and dry they need to be paid there would be no need for heading to court. They dropped the ball.

What a brave statement from the club as well. Don't know what I really wanted them to say but they have dragged their name through mud, the cheque better be huge.

Big Ads, hope you’re correct with your mail. But to play it all nonchalant like it was not big deal is being pretty silly really. Until it is/was sorted it was a major issue. And the 36ers as usual handled it horribly.

Good luck to Mitch!!

Storm in a teacup. Sixers have agreed to terms with the Nets. Mitch is cleared to play.

Only about $30k of his contract is guaranteed. The $100k payment would only be made if he makes the Nets roster when his contract would become fully guaranteed to the tune of around $700k for the season.

They have a $118 million roster for christ sakes. WTF is $100k to them?!?!

I think the 36ers have filed this injunction against BA as well. I'd guess BA are not very excited about it.

Beantown, if they have not committed more than $x0k to Creek at this point, you think they're going to be keen to put up more (I heard $350k, not $100k) rather than just go with someone else they were considering?

Meanwhile:

Come on @Adelaide36ers. This is awful. Whoever is pushing this will lose you a lot of fans and potential players. https://t.co/0MotuKCyl1

— Josh Childress (@JChillin) August 9, 2018

Aussiebballer and Reality, I've been wondering something similar to both of you. There must be some grey areas relating to Creek's contract or none of this would be happening. We could just as easily point the finger at Brooklyn and ask why they are such cheap skates that they won't pay the Sixers $100k for a player they developed over about 8 years! They have a $118 million roster for christ sakes. WTF is $100k to them?!?!

People whining about accents is a monstrous pet peeve of mine. It's personal. It's irrelevant. And to use it as a sleight shows no understanding of someone who's grown up amidst two cultures. Give it up. It's pathetic.

CJ added a foreign accent to his speech to make us believe he had actually been in Europe exercising his out clause but unfortunately the guise didn't work because the foreign accent he chose was American

CJ went overseas twice but remained within the NBL. Impressive.

I wonder if his deal had a clause allowing him to play in Europe in the NBL offseason and then come back to the Sixers.
But if he left to the NBA there was a buyout clause, which probably assumed he would have been signing a guaranteed NBA deal. Which would have given him $1mil roughly.
But as he has only signed a training amp deal that guarantees about $30k the $100k buyout looks pretty rough.
Obviously just guessing at the details, but that would make some kind of sense.

Chairman, if Mitch has an ongoing relationship, I suspect it would be with teammates and coach. I could see this incident as being part of something that drives a wedge between the club and everyone on-court. Can't see how many players would be supportive of it or that Joey would be enthused by them bungling re-signing his top player and then making future recruitment more difficult.

There's something about this that doesn't really add up for me. Maybe i'm being naive. There have been articles in the past in which the 36ers said they'd seek compensation but ultimately not block Mitch from going to the NBA. The fact that Mitch is at the club this week working out indicates to me that he has some level of comfort with what is happening. It'd be good to hear from him personally to be honest.
Whatever happens, it's yet again a whole bunch of terrible publicity for the club. We seem to do this annually...

Poor Mitch Creek, would retiring his number 55 be enough to get him back there?

I mean seriously Mitch would literally run through a wall if it meant he could get a greater chance to make the NBA... real fucking sad when that wall is a team you've loved for years

It's as if they want to clawback some of the money they pissed away when T-Ferg was drafted. What morons.

My god this is just sad.

https://www.netsdaily.com/2018/8/8/17663560/australian-team-wants-compensation-from-nets-before-letting-mitch-creek-go

Firstly, you are putting Mitch's NBA dream at risk for $100,000??? Come on Sixers don't do this.

Creek had one year of a three-year deal left to run with the 36ers in the 2018-19 season but triggered his European/NBA out clause to join a top-level German club, Wurzberg. Wurzberg gave Creek its clearance but Adelaide claims it must get its approval as well.

Is 100k really worth more than their reputation and good will of the fans? They will drop more than that when us members leave and they can't get players to joIn the team. This is an all time bone headed move. You don't think the nets are just like let's move on a player we can get with no issues. This is his big chance and some suit in Adelaide is flushing any chance he has down the toilet.

Seems perfectly fair and reasonable when you consider the Ingles and Newley past. Also Bradtke but that had more to do with between the sheets antics.
Could there be a bigger public relations cock up as well as player relations going forward. Can see the recruiting spiel now, come to Adelaide young fella, just don't try and make it to NBA where you might just be a fringe player, or we'll take you to court to stop you.
I really wonder what the Nets are thinking about this, bit like a mosquito biting an elephant in the ass.

Even if they had a case, they’re destroying a relationship with a player and sending a negative message to players league-wide.

Knowing the Sixers they probably made all sorts of error on the injunction application and wound up applying for a credit card.

Poor form and short sighted by the 6ers.

Doesn't work for me.

If he signed a contract with these clauses then he has to honor it.

that worked ;)

but does not work when I post it

perhaps start from here ?
https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/

https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/basketball/adelaide-36ers-file-injunction-to-stop-mitch-creeks-nba-clearance-without-compensation/news-story/9fa392a557143135fd0a80eb8889ffd9


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The day of the first NBL Stars signing is the day Adelaide send a strong message to the NBA that they might make things difficult for young players when they are ready to return.

I expect the 36ers took legal counsel before pursuing this matter. Hopefully the advice was better than "It's the vibe of it.....".


Hopefully the matter achieves conciliation without detrimental impact on any party, particularly Mitch and the 36ers.

This is much Ado about nothing. Typical social media sensationalism and outrage. The article says creek is training with his Sixers teammates and still loves them and the coaches. So much for the organisation blowing why chance of recruiting him or other stars again

@Playmaker - we don't, it is a guess but more likely than less IMHO.

Can anyone help post the article. I'm confused. Either the Sixers have a claim to compensation, or they don't?

Can the Sixers even raise an injunction if there is no contract to back it up?

There seems to be some conjecture on whether Creek opted out or opted in.

I've read one article which suggested he opted in, but most of the talk here says opted out.

If they have a legitimate case then fair enough i guess, they should get what they're entitled to and not be pushed around.

But to me at this stage it just seems like a desperate geedy cash grab. I guess we'll find out. If it is just a greedy cash grab they're a bunch of muppets.

So I'm guessing that the article was light on actual specifics?

Simple things like the 36ers explaining why they think they're entitled to this fee when as far as the basketball public knows, Creek didn't exercise his player option, signed overseas and then utilised his NBA out clause in that contract to pursue his NBA dream, should really clear it up?

Surely it's in their best interest, as good luck getting any decent local players to sign there now with how this looks...

36ers have build a nice roster of youngsters the past few years but any future players with NBA aspirations will be staying away you'd think.

Even if they are due a fee ......eventually Creek will be coming back and I don't know perhaps not massively pissing off a favourite son is the better path.

Beantown, don’t play devils advocate. I’m sure the actual story will come out.

Ok, everyone is very quick to blame the Sixers here. I'll play devils advocate. How do we KNOW that they didn't have a clause in Creek's contract that entitles them to a transfer fee? Surely the owners wouldn't pursue this unless they genuinely believe they have a case?