Hoops

NBL Round 1 Review

Lots of ups and downs in the first round, I wouldn't be rushing to any judgments just yet as they seem to get outdated by the next game! Also, White and Kennedy have got hops.

No one's against individual brilliance, full stop.

Just individual brilliance without enough structure around it, and looking disjointed enough to score 80 odd points against the high paced 36ers.

Ooh a randle debate, you can rely on his brillance, for a good home and away record.... elite player, but a team with a good system will always beat the best individual overall. Any questions his name is lebron, the team is gsw.

"Randle has been the best scorer in the league pretty much since he got here. He's been doing it a few years now mate, he's no fluke. You CAN rely on his brilliance."

Yeah I am pretty sure that the reason they paid a shitload of money to get him to Sydney is precisely because of how he performs on the court.

Not in a semi final series when you're 1-0 up vs. Illawarra. #hogmode

Bogut's rebound stats may be inflated.

He also blocked 4 shots and dished out 4 assists.

Question- and I don't know the answer- but how many times did any NBL big record 4 blocks and 4 assists last season?

I'd be fairly certain it's extremely rare.

"Studs and Duds: Round 1"

He forgot to put Randle in the Studs.

Def not the same Bogut - lost speed and elevation.

It's still only one game but I am seeing the same mistakes from Gaze.

The Sixers run should have been stopped by a time out much earlier, Gaze should have recognised the same offence wasn't working and drawn something else up.

What's the Kings' thinking with bringing Kickert off the bench behind Wear? No bench scoring otherwise? I would've thought Kickert-Bogut was a good combo mixing O and D and they should adjust somewhere else, like Newley with the second unit. Start Bowen in that case?

Bench looks even weaker if starters don't fire. Take Bowen's impact from that 36ers game and they wouldn't have looked any better.

I take it you've never actually seen Bogut play before.

"Bogut had 14 boards and 4 blocks. He missed some makeable shots around the hoop. It is laughable to say those other bigs will be better than him. The only question is whether he can stay healthy. If so, he will be better than every big man"

LOL. 14 Rebounds? 5-6 were missed tip ins!!!

If he is to gain any respectability, he needs to beast up and dominate the paint - get the rebound and stuff it - none of this 5 missed tip-in rubbish. He needs to post up and go to work and get to basket or draw the foul - none of this running away hook shot that misses.

If his legs are not holding up, then play a hard 15 minute game, and get Deng Deng and Deng Acouth in for energy and defence. At the current rate, he looks old and tired trying to play the full game.

Otherwise it's a long season for the Kings, with effectively 1 import in Randle.

"Bogut had 14 boards and 4 blocks. He missed some makeable shots around the hoop. It is laughable to say those other bigs will be better than him. The only question is whether he can stay healthy. If so, he will be better than every big man"

LOL. 14 Rebounds? 5-6 were missed tip ins!!!

If he is to gain any respectability, he needs to beast up and dominate the paint - get the rebound and stuff it - none of this 5 missed tip-in rubbish. He needs to post up and go to work and get to basket or draw the foul - none of this running away hook shot that misses.

Otherwise it's a long season for the Kings, with effectively 1 import in Randle.

"They'll need a better offensive structure."

so you're saying they should invest in a coach then.

And other than individually, it's concerning that their offense looked disjointed at times. You can't rely on Randle's brilliance bailing you out. They'll need a better offensive structure.

I can’t believe all the people writing Bogut off after one game.

Yes, he struggled to defend DJ. But let’s see how Bogut goes against some similar opponents before writing him off (Boone, Pledger, Jawai, Brandt, Jervis, Long, Bairstow, Hodgson).

Despite his troubles guarding DJ, I thought he was the most influential King on the floor other than Randle. He showed that his rim protection, rebounding and passing is at a high level.

Lisch and Newley are more concerning for the Kings in my view. Both look to have declined significantly in the past couple of years.

Wear is replaceable. And they could use their 3rd import spot if any Aussies get injured too.

yes, "guarding" him

I keep hearing "if you take out Randle...". He's the best offensive player in the league. Of course if you took him out the Kings wouldn't be a contender. But with him in, they are very dangerous.

Bogut had 14 boards and 4 blocks. He missed some makeable shots around the hoop. It is laughable to say those other bigs will be better than him. The only question is whether he can stay healthy. If so, he will be better than every big man

"Why do they have to be called "power rankings" and simply not Rankings
Thoughts?"

Power rankings refers to a different thing than the actual ladder. That is the point of it.

Agree with Snooch. Quality looks to have dipped this year.

But could just be first round teething issues.

Its awfully frustrating trying to watch a game where it feels like there are fouls twice for every 1.5 to 2 possessions.

Not sure if anyone noticed towards the end of the Kings game, but Gaze had a timeout and he was mic'd up. Explained a play and Bogut looked at him and asked him to repeat what he said. The whole time Bogut had this look of disgust on his face while walking back onto the court. Can't believe the bookies had Gaze favourite for CoY! Said it before, and I'll say it again, it'll end up being all Randle and Kickert holding this team together, both Lisch and Bogut are past their used by dates. Best thing I saw out of that game was Bowen, looks like he'll be in the NBA in the not too distant future.

Another thing I noticed was Majok Deng...he was having circles run around him by Vague and Bowen, never noticed how much of a liability on defence he is. Guess it's because he's so long he tends to get a few blocks here and there.

So far it's a 3 way race for MVP with Cotton, Randle and Trimble. I don't think Ware is going to put up numbers like these guys due to the firepower they have at United, Cotton may also fall off the pace due to how much slack the rest of their team is picking up now.

"They are allowed to lose a game. With that much talent, once they get it together they will be very difficult to beat. You have to respect that."

What talent apart from Randle, Kicket and Newley?

I've been watching Bogut all preseason, and I thought he was saving the real beast for the 1st game. But I now think he is a washed-up overrated over opinionated player. Please Kings, don't run the clip about Bogut before the game. It is an embarrassment to the Kings and the NBA. Get the rebound, rise up and stuff it - non of this 5 tip-in attempts rubbish. He is too slow and can not gaurd DJ in the post or perimeter.

Lisch has lost it.

Wear is useless.

Gaze no idea: the Dengs would have been effective against DJ. No time out: 10-0 run in final quarter.

Jeff Wrong Again: As I have said all preseason: Kings need another 2 imports in the 3 and 4, the likes of Prather and Wesley. Atm there is no effective scorers in the paint... all outside shots.

I'm a Perth fan and know that the Hawks were gassed, in fact I loaded up on the Perth line during the OT at -6.5, easy money (also got on NZ +7.5, more easy money). They took advantage like they should and pummelled them. What impressed me most about both their games was that they score 99 and 101, I'd never imagine Perth averaging 100pts in the 40 minute era, small sample size, but Norton looks so much better than Kenny out there, not afraid to score or take on the defence. Martin is going to be very fresh this season with Norton taking the reign's like he is. Terrico is living up to the hype, does it so effortlessly and shows little emotion which is a bit different for the Cats after Prather, Ennis, Beal, but I think that's good for us, takes a ton of pressure off Cotton. Kay is an animal on both ends. Brandt/Jervis 1-2 punch is looking great too, however be interesting to see how they go against athletic bigs like Long for NZ. Pretty happy with our start, but it's a long season so not getting ahead of myself. 1 injury can derail us. I'm also saving all the Corey Perth hate tweets ready to send them back in force at the end of the season. :D

Not much interest on Hoops in the season chances for Bullets, Hawks, Taipans.
Probably premature judgement.
But one prediction I'd venture: (Ro)melo Trimble won't be back with the Taipans next season.

Wow, people are really getting carried away with the Wildcats-Hawks result. That's my takeaway from the first round.

Its not only the half court, sydney bigd got exposed in transition, bogut can still be exposed in the pick and roll as well. Lisch has lost a step, if moore can blow buy him most guards can. Your guard size comment again is limited, when sydneys guards get caught switching the pick and roll how well can they cope? How well can their defence as a whole recover to remove the mismatch, these are largely system questions and so far sydney doesn't have one.

My pre season comment about Perth being the underrated dog out of the three big dogs is looking pretty spot on.

Still clearly major question marks over United and Sydney at this stage.

Perth look like the same old well oiled machine. Anyone foolish enough to tip them outside the four is already feeling silly.

It's early days. But we're probably looking at a very competitive season, yet again stronger in overall talent than the year before.

The first few weeks of a new season are so great.

Anon you may not be wrong but both randle and bogut have huge weaknesses, adelaide and joey exposed them. The question with Sydney is if gaze can put them in a position to maximise their strengths and minimise their weaknesses. Atm it looks like a strong no. Don't get me wrong talent wins games, teams win championships.

Why take Randle out? He is one of the primary reasons they are high in my power rankings.

They are allowed to lose a game. With that much talent, once they get it together they will be very difficult to beat. You have to respect that.

Randle is the best PG in the league and Bogut is the best centre. That's a great start.

Perth has looked better than they have in years. Their offence especially hasn't looked this good for years, dare i say just rhe offence is better than some of their recent championships.

Just a few teething issues, like offence, defence and coaching. But apart from that, they look solid.

Sydney's talent is still right up there and they were in control of that game until mid way through the fourth. Just some teething problems but they're still the team to beat

"1) Sydney
2) Perth
3) Melbourne
4) Adelaide
5) Cairns
6) New Zealand
7) Brisbane
8) Illawarra

Your thoughts?"

LOL errr, what?

How can you put Sydney at the top when they lost their only game?

Agree that atm Perth look the most balanced, GO's coverage is great on social media and shows such as the TODAY show, just wish the actual broadcast was in HD, it does not look pretty on a 50 inch.

Yeah there is a sense of athleticism that is missing, hopefully as the imports get more settled in, we start to see more highlight plays. Can imagine guys like Bowen surprising fans with some plays as he was quite impressive for the Kings.

Me, Terrico White is an athlete. He has shown more poise and skill in two games then Tokoto did in a year. I think you are overreacting mightily suggesting the leavue has tightened its pirse strings and that the imports we have a re below par. Sure the bullets, hawks have made poor decisions but overall they are fine.

I think we saw a couple of good games with Melbourne vs. Illawarra, and Sydney vs. Adelaide. Melbourne vs. New Zealand wasn't too bad as well.

I couldn't be bothered to continue watching Brisbane and Cairns, and that will probably be my attitude towards those teams for the season.

The First Ever ad started out as quirky, and I kind of liked it, and then it played again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And then I think I lost a night of sleep because that noise kept haunting me. It has to go. First Ever isn't going to become a "thing" and I hope they recognize that sooner rather than later.

The broadcasts have improved, with a special effort obviously being made for the 9Go games, which seem to be the ones where they show more of the pre-game entertainment and try to build an atmosphere. Also, I've noticed that 9Go has really bought in, their Twitter background is an NBL logo with Andrew Bogut, and they seemed to be posting consistently about the league.

They've also featured players on Nine shows, and I think having an NBL Sportsbet ad is a plus, despite it having Wortho on it.

I think the standard of basketball we are seeing is very good, but I make no bones about the fact that we've seen a marked drop in import quality and athleticism this season. If you look across the board you see athletic imports like Conger replaced with not-so athletic guys in Conklin, or Terrico White for Tokoto, or DJ Kennedy for Prather. it is a consistent trend across the league, and for me, it is troubling.

The basketball purist might dismiss this, but dunks and highlights matter when it comes to putting eyes on the league and making it a spectacle to watch. You're going to get more fans with a Prather dunk than you are a DJ kennedy lay up, regardless of whether the points add up the same.

This leads me to believe that there are financial troubles at NBL teams and perhaps even within the league itself. Some clubs have definitely tightened their purses on last season, despite the increase in crowd and sponsorship revenue. Andrew Bogut's name can only do so much for the league and I see the Bogut affect wearing thin very early. The league actually needs a James Ennis, it needs a Casey Prather, it needs a Josh Childress, it needs a Mitch Creek.

I can't help but feel like the league is tightening its purse on imports at the wrong time. I don't think the first season with 9Go is the time to be spending more on "solid" Aussies than spectacular imports. As it stands right now I feel like I am watching the 2013/14 NBL as opposed to the glory of last season, which truly must have been among the greatest ever.

Noticed on andthefoul.net Facebook page last night:
'Taipans announcement tomorrow. Not sure which big signing they're about to announce, two big bomb shells coming your way. First one, tomorrow!'
Any idea who these may be??