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NBL Fantasy and Sportsdeck Season Thread 2018/2019

Recovered a bit. Now 23rd all up, with Trimble, Kenny and Andersen still to play tonight.

Trimble/Kenny
Kennedy/Bowen
Patterson/Moore
Long/Andersen
Boone/Jawai
Ware

Ware's had a poor round. Should've got McCarron but he burnt me last time. Jawai's missing the second game this round, but I'm dropping him this week anyway.

Kennedy was a good move, as was captaining Long and continuing without Bogut. Five players this round have better stats than Bogut and I started four of them, so fantasy life could be worse.

Wesley got 27 for the round. Happy I ditched him the other week.

Outside the box moves. Long to Boone and Conger to Patterson.

PG: Trimble
SG: Sobey
SF: Patterson
PF: Wesley
C: Bogut
6th: Boone

I too am way off the mark so trading Wiley to Kay (most ppl will be targeting Wesley this week) and Newbill (who has been trash) to Conger. Tempted to put Bogut on my bench and play Brandt for the double, but Bogut has dominated 36ers in the past.

Mate Moores likely done for the season so reverse that shit.

I have ditched Bogut for this round and possibly the season. Ranked in the 30s now, so no chance of getting anywhere with the usual suspects. Rolling the dice. Went Bogut/Grida to Wesley/Moore.

Patterson to Sobey and Hodgson to Johnson. Chasing from around a ranking of 100, no point trying to build the team long term, I'll just try and jag a few spots up the ranking each week.

Lineup for upcoming round.

PG: Melo (Adnam)
SG: Patterson (Bowen)
SF: Newbill (Kuany)
PF: DJ - 36ers (Wear)
C: Bogut (Brandt)
6th: Long

Not unhappy to have traded Norton despite his double for the round! 7 points in the first game.

I ended up keeping Long and instead doing Norton and White to Jawai and Hall. Leaves me only one Cat to trade next round meaning I can trade Kay and a Hawks scrub for DJ and Patterson or something like that. Long will have value again in two rounds and for one of them he has a single when almost everyone else does anyway, so no great loss.

Jawai and Hall were mediocre in the first game, but have a good schedule to come.

My brother considered Loe but went with Wear. Ouch.

Waiting a week for Patterson, this week is White to Newbill and Vague to Wear.

Any other decent value options for the bench?

I think this week I'll be trading White to Patterson and maybe make a bench move like Steindl to Wear who seems to have found some form and is dirt cheap. Lots of cheap bench options with good schedules, Wear, Kickert, Walker to name a few.

Well, that Cotton move has been pretty damaging. He'd already missed one game before I dumped him, then missed another before returning for two strong games.

So not only did I end up with struggling White instead, I threw away two trades, one of which could've been used to improve my hapless bench. Long on the bench was at least worth 70/2 in the one game, but Naar/Grida/Andersen were pitiful. Anyone with Patterson, Hodgson, Jawai, etc on the bench is killing me.

I dropped Kennedy and Barlow for Trimble and Lisch. Norton has slumped with Martin back. The Hawks all have doubles this week but besides Long I don't need to trade to the schedule. So, might be Norton to the bench, Long for Jawai, and upgrade Naar who often seems averse to getting stats.

Think I'm going to bring in Cotton and Brandt this week, Patterson is very tempting, but might pick him up closer to his doubles.

Need big games from Boone and Kennedy, otherwise holding them will have well and truly burnt me.

I'm sure you're not the only one, 29% Cotton ownership prior to the round commencing.

I've now kept Long and dropped Cotton for White. Can't risk more missed games. Threw two trades at Cotton for all of one game. What a waste.

16th, nice! Seems like it's easy to move up and down the rankings, was 5th overall a few weeks ago, sacrificed a few moves for long term strength which dropped me a fair bit, I'm quite positive I can make a decent climb back up the standings this round. Bogut seems like the lock for captaincy, Kay not far behind. If Cotton misses a game or too, Kay is tempting as his usage will prob skyrocket.

I have gone from Long and Wesley to Bogut and Lisch, latter being a nervy pick. Newley bit risky, Randle makes it more awkward getting Trimble at a later date. Terrico would've given me four Cats needing to be traded out in a few weeks whereas Lisch can be theoretically held for the rest of the season.

Norton/Naar
Cotton/Bowen
Kennedy/Grida
Kay/Barlow
Bogut/Andersen
Lisch

Think you've probably got me beat at almost every position though.

Currently ranked 16th.

Yeah went Kay captain too, moved back up to 91st. Also glad I went Terrico instead of Cotton.

Trades this week will be Barlow to Vague and Long to Bogut. All of my players will be on doubles this week and surely this team can climb right back up into contention.

PG: Trimble (Adnam)
SG: Kennedy (Bowen)
SF: Terrico (Steindl)
PF: Kay (Vague)
C: Bogut (Hodgson)
6th: Boone

Norton paid off. Cotton not so much.

I'm a bit sick of Andersen but he has a double, so likely to swap Long for Bogut and Wesley for Trimble perhaps, cash permitting.

Kay as captain was the right move. Hope no one went with Long instead!

Everyone bar Perth and Sydney have a crap schedule now till round 11. I brought in Trimble in round 5 and he can stay all season as my PG. Instead of Steindl to Terrico, I've been able to turn Froling into Terrico, Froling has a terrible BE. So my team looks like this:

PG: Trimble (Adnam)
SG: Kennedy (Bowen)
SF: Terrico (Steindl)
PF: Kay (Barlow)
C: Long (Hodgson)
6th: Boone

Next week I'll be downgrading Barlow or Hodgson pending on prospects, and Long will become Bogut.

I went to Norton and Cotton. Already have Kay. Don't like Steindl. Could've held McCarron at PG and got Blanchfield instead, but the PG stocks are pretty average while Adelaide and Cairns have a poor schedule. Plus McCarron is almost guaranteed to drop heavily in price again. Should've taken Ware instead, and now held him next two rounds before making a PG switch.

Wesley to Kay and Steindl to Terrico this week.

Having trouble deciding what I want to do this week...

Trimble, Kennedy, Barlow, Wesley, Long, Boone

Think I'm keeping Trimble for the season, the rest of the PG's are lack lustre, Randle finally had a good game, but Lisch was out. Common sense mover would be Barlow to Cotton and Boone/Wesley to Kay. Terrico is tempting at his price if he's back this week over Cotton...Bogut definitely comes in next week.

Came across this.

https://stocklight.com/news/nbl-fantasy-cheat-sheet-2018-19?utm_source=fantasy_nbl&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=fantasy_nbl_tweet

I've only seen BE's for Sportsdeck, NBL Fantasy prices are capped at 100K per week. As in they can't have a price rise of more than 100K and I'd presume they can't drop more than 100K either going week to week.

How can I tell which players are going up and down. Are there break even scores available like in AFL fantasy

I have turned Hodgson and Drmic into Wesley and Grida. Not really interested in Grida, but I only have one player otherwise to trade in R8, so might as well have two Breakers. Also want all doubled starters. And no point getting Ware and having to trade, or Cotton a round early because there aren't many great trades out of Melbourne in R7 besides Perth (already have Kay) or Illawarra.

Yeah I get it, but still need to maximise as many positions as possible on the double. I've decided to hold Trimble throughout even though he has a couple of singles, no point bringing Ware in now when I've also got enough United players.

Think I'll be trading Gliddon to Wesley (after moving some players around), and Drmic to Steindl for the cash grab.

Watching Randle to see if he can pick up his game prior to their doubles when Cats and Kings have good runs. Next week will most likely turn Barlow and Kennedy/Boone into Cotton and Kay.

Unless you have purely Melbourne and New Zealand players starting this round, you're going to cop a single round somewhere.

I will move two United players after R6, probably into Wildcats or Hawks. Then Long into a King. And the remaining two United players after their R8 double. Move the expensive ones first, bench any single gamers to reduce the hit.

There are people holding Bogut through three singles. And Trimble. That isn't maximising doubles?

Right now, the issue with dropping Hodgson/Drmic is that the double game teams are United (I have enough of them as it is) and Breakers (no great options besides Wesley and I can't afford him and Steindl together). But something like Hodgson/Drmic into Cotton/Steindl could be an upgrade.

You got 4 United players there which means if you downgrade on the bench, you will definitely have to hold 2 United players when they have single games in 2 weeks time. Could work long term, but most teams seem to be trading to maximise double rounds.

I jumped several hundred spots. Traded for Kay and Long. Made Kay captain which turned out to be the right move.

McCarron 74
Kennedy 58 (screwed by refs)
Barlow 31 (everyone has him, so not fussed)
Long 83 (fouled out very quickly!)
Boone 89
Kay 250 (doubled)

Will probably be trading out Hodgson and Drmic.

Will have dropped from 4th overall to 71st overall when lockout ends. :(

Refs ruined Kennedy and Long with bogus calls.

Oh gees, I just suck at this.

Guess who I traded in for Goulding?
Hint, I used the 6th Man position.

Brought in Brandt. FMD.
and I made him VC.

Made Trimble captain, should have just kept Bogut

Buy hey, at least I have Froling on my bench.

If you don’t already have Romelo Trimble or Andrew Bogut you should.

I don't think Goulding has travelled this round. You should've traded him.

I've dropped DJ and Sobey for Kay and Long. Long has six games in three rounds. Kay should be a reasonably long-term hold. Only Bowen (who almost everyone has) and Drmic have single games.

Captain choice is going to be tough too this week, Trimble, Kennedy, Boone and Long all options on my side...

Surely you'd have to get rid of Goulding, depends who you can get in for him though based on your extra cash? NBL is terrible with their injury updates too so we prob won't find out...although Perth have already said Damo will be out for another couple of weeks, would be good if all teams were more transparent like the AFL, at least they list their teams the night before a round starts.

Thanks for that. I'm an idiot.
I thought "Team of the Week" was an actual team. :-(

I sucked this week, I opted to not trade out Goulding or even bench him :-(
Do we know when he'll be back? Or should I trade him out?

Finishing 5th for the round and 4th overall! This puts real pressure on my trades now. Gut is telling me to trade out Bogut and bring him back for his doubles. Have done the math and even if he's over 2 mill I'll still have the cash to bring him back. I figure if Bogut sticks to around his average 65-70 you're losing points on say a guy like Long who has 3 weeks of doubles now, and if he reaches his average 40-45 points then I could be losing up to 20 pts per week by keeping Bogut. The 3 teams above me do have Bogut and I expect them to hold. I've roughly drawn up my trades up to round 8 and the route I take by moving Bogut should net me more points in the grand scheme of things.

Players rise and fall in value based on their stats (I think). In other leagues I've played, it was based on demand.

In the NBL comp, supposedly, what you're meant to do is pick based on this for the first two rounds (which don't ultimately count) and fundraise, then start going for points.So, go for cheap guys that will get stats. I just went for points from the start, won R1 overall, but have been crap since!

My team is worth 11.4m. R4 winner has a team worth 11.3m. Found one further down that was 11.8m - they had a team similar to mine, but Bogut instead of McCarron which was a massive difference this round.

Is there some exploit or tactic that I am missing??
I looked at the team that was winning the round (at one point) did a quick add, and his total Salary was over $13M. He had a really stacked bench.

Overall rank 57 prior to tonights game and have Bogut (C), Boone, Kennedy and Barlow to come and on the bench Adnam and Bowen. Big games please Bogie!

Yeah I've gone Bogut, can't be long till he starts getting some double doubles.

Saw a headline suggesting Bogut had back pain, but might've just been Sydney foxing?

Good choice if you've got him.

I went with DJ for a last hurrah before he's traded out.

9/11 players with doubles this round so hopefully they perform.

Who's everyone using as their Captain?
I went with Bogut. Is that the correct approach?

Had someone confirm on Twitter that the awkward wording about R3 is correct and that points towards the grand prize only count from R3 onwards. R1-2 can win you the weekly prize but nothing else.

So anyone gunning for the $10k should probably have picked ignoring R1-2 other than trying to raise team value.

Ware looks like he's back for the G category. Think you're fairly safe with McCarron and Kennedy, McCarron is prob right on his correct price point. Kennedy still puts up a great fantasy score even in a bad game, and I think he'll get it going this week if Goulding is out, lineup looks better not having that 6th star needing minutes.

Nov 4 for Patterson.

My trades (unless I change my mind) -

Newbill to McCarron
Wiley to Kennedy

Bit of a gamble. McCarron could just as well fail in two games to surpass Newbill's one. And I still don't like Kennedy much (and think Wiley is due) but slim pickings amongst the better scheduled teams and he at least seems to get stats somehow. With McCarron, there are just no other big-stat-getting guards besides Sobey.