Hoops

Sixers v Breakers Jan 4

Enjoy Adelaide, Joey will drag you down the gutter.

DJ has to shoot those step backs as it’s when defenders are forcing him so hard to his left that’s its the only way he can get a shot off without using his left hand.
It’s appalling his lack of a left hand. Has all of the skill, touch and feel to be a really successful big but just has never developed defensively or a left hand. Those two things alone could have seen him be successful overseas but he seems just happy being in the NBL

I noticed the commentators have also been silenced a bit in regards to the charge/flop/block calls.
Refs please note - unless it is 100 percent a charge (yes folks 100percent)then it is always a block/flop, its not that difficult....

The block/charge/flop call has become a real problem. Been going to games for 20 years and seems like this current crop of refs have no idea what to call and make different decisions for the same call. One minute they call flops and then they call charges. And then all they know how to do is call techs to rectify when players get frustrated. Last night they made so many calls which were in complete contradiction to each other. Bad defence and flopping is rewarding massively by the refs, hence players drop like flies. 50/50 calls seem to be going defenders way too often with refs just reacting and guessing. Last night Teys tried to draw a charge, two refs blew the whistle, one was going to signal for a flop while the other called a charge. If the refs are this far apart on the call how can their be any confidence in their decisions. It does have a massive impact as it frustrates the players, the refs put themselves under more pressure and we have patches in games where the refs lose complete control of everything and the game gets ugly. One problem is refs will only call a charge if a player flops as per.

Was at the game last night. Can anyone clarify if Wiley sort of subbed himself on towards end of 4th. He was waiting for a sub, then when ref signalled subs, he raced on and went straight to other end of court to give instructions to players. Joey then saw Wiley on and look surprised and quickly pulled someone off, after which Joey looked bewildered at what had just happened but it was too late to rectify.

That was a great game to watch.
Joey didn't coach well, his body language towards his players near games end was odd, the team seems to take on his persona when things get tough...
NZ has huge potential and that was a good win for the league, exciting stuff to come.
The refs and their interpretation of the charge rule......FFS

Their struggles against the zone are something I will be watching intently going forward.

Did New Zealand by chance 'red' (full-court trapping press) much last night?

It really is surprising how just about all NBL teams struggle against a zone considering how frequently teams are playing zone defenses these days.

How does a professional team and coach struggle against a zone for so long. Looking at their ratings in synergy last year and could see they were last in the league against a zone d. United played a lot of zone in the gf series I’m sure?

These coaches have all of the access to synergy etc, time to work and implement. Yet still run an u12 offence against a zone. Watching last night when breakers came out in a zone in the second half , knew breakers were a massive chance.

Breakers $1.68 Wildcats $2.20. Better bump that Perth thread again ;)

Richard hits 6/6 3pt shots. That was difference. Anytime someone does that you will win. Most of them were at crucial times in the game. Commentator mentioned he was 0/6 last week. Shooting approx 35% from 3 for the season. Sixers shot less than 30% from 3 and took over 30 shots. They either drove into trouble under the basket or there up bricks. A very poor team game. Conger was woeful. Had a huge open look from 3 and was lucky to hit front of rim.

Did Adelaide struggle against the zone? That's a shock

That a really enjoyable game... great seeing a centre completely dominate a game but did DJ even play ?

Wiley playing injured with a bruised pride after today's game

Wesley was sensational as well

Majok Majok won't be getting any career progression in a Breakers uniform.

If it wasn't for Sobey and Teys then 36ers should have lost by 20 as they absolutely sucked today.

Breakers vs Wildcats is a massive game on Sunday now

Why did we have Moore, Wiley and Conger out there tonight against that zone in the 2nd half... need quality shooters not people chucking contested midrange and unable to space the floor. There any chance of playing DJ and Froling at the 4 wouldn’t mind seeing that more.

School holidays...nahh just grumpy old men doing their stuff

still school holidays ?

Isaac, Drmic will play more time when his body is fully ok again. Just look at the way he is moving at the moment and for sure he is not 100% but still trying his best.

Best part about this humiliating loss is that the Sixers are still stuck with Joey for a few more years. Unless he's off to the NBA (cough) and I am pretty sure that Brooks will be worse than Joey. Enjoy.

Joey was out coached and our players out played.

Conger would have to be the most expensive and overrated import in the league. He had too many minutes and Drmic not enough.

Moore has been a shadow of his old self...disappointed we are stuck with him next season to be honest. Over dribbles the ball, poor shot selection and a streaky shot at best. I'm not really sure what he offers?

Deng is hit or miss but is easily backed down and abused. Another liability if he isn't contributing offensively.

DJ needs to be smarter. Can shoot the 3 so should have tried to nail some and draw Long or Wesley out of the paint.

Doyle...should never play. How he is on a professional basketball team is beyond me.

Wiley was out hustled tonight, that's where his game gets going and he didn't bring it. Looked to be a little hampered by a corked thigh or something.

Adelaide looked flat all game and it was obvious NZ wanted it more. They made the adjustments and corrections they needed to from 5 days ago and the Sixers had no answers.

And, how do the Breakers get away with not 1 but 2 cross courts violations???

1 of those umpires is an absolute Muppet week in, week out....like Doyle, has no right being a professional.

Howdy Pete, what did you think of that one mate?

I'm happy with that result

This was a wasted opportunity as Brisbane lost to Cairns. Hopefully United take care of Bullets.

Sixers got outplayed and outsmarted. Long played the game of his life and Richard being 100% (6/6) from behind the arc was awesome shooting.

NZ were the better team and this game highlights why they have been so frustrating this season.

Conger has had minimal impact with the club. Agree that he doesn't seem to have much of a role. Feels like he gets the start because on paper he should be able to outperform Drmic, even if he actually won't.

Froling was great in the bits I saw. Teys solid too.

DJ's key thing is offence yet he only had 7 shots. So what was he out there for?

Long and Wesley put on a show. Long's game was one of the best by any player this season. 28 and 18 with 3 blocks is huge.

But near the end, Adelaide were down abut 5 despite Richard going 6/6 3P. On one hand, you can lose worse than that, but on the other, any result like this against another team vying for that fourth play-off spot is critical.

Disappointing for Sixers fans. Lots of opportunity, but the Long arms of the Breakers were too good

"Teys is a spud playing dying minutes"
How long would a compilation of his cheap shots run for?

The best most enjoyable auduble for me was NZ coach telling ili that "he is smarter than that" when subbing him off after the backcourt violation -----when almost every player in the NBL knows he's actualluy not - which is why it happened :)

Froling needed more minutes

Moore needed to be told to get other players involved - his hero ball in the last quater was embarasing

Deng was a liabilty that was exploited by breakers

Conger does not seem to have a role, is joey doing anything other than fitting players into pre-dertermined role - regardles of their fit ?

36ers run a zone offence that my u/14 coach ( legal in those days) would have laughed at.

Joey does not seem to have anything to offer the team in trespect of containing a centre like Long or Bogut, with Froling and DJ, he has the fexabilty and inteligence avaiablke to plan and implement almost anything.
Teys played well

platers worth paying tonight
Sobey, Froling, Teys and ?
DJ made a great effort but just did not have an impact

Moore, conger and Wiley were just totally neutralised, and there seemed that there was no plan B for how to get them to be productive.

JMHO

Count Tai Wesley as well.

Go breakers. Made big plays down the stretch. Richard came up big, along with Long and Webster. Wow where to now Sixers?,

Tourism SA must have paid the refs to ensure NZ won, to encourage more teams to stay in Adelaide for extended time.

Can’t have been that the team that played better, got the win.

Biggest problem for the Sixers have been the rotations more than the refs IMO.

Curtains.. it’s over

Also I don’t know how that long move cannot be a charge after that call on sobey earlier, pretty disgraceful reffing.

Agree Duncan, I also feel that Drimic should have gotten a lot more time considering how much New Zealand have played zone and the poor games from Wiley and Conger.

Long has been enormously impressive but he could have easily been called for several offensive fouls which may have changed the outcome of this game significantly.

Getting interesting now.

Especially if NZ take too long in back half

Interesting that in the Adelaide huddle before free throws, Froling is doing the talking.

Shea....................

Breakers imports have significantly outplayed the Sixers imports. 20 point turnaround in the second half so far. Without Teys this game would have been over by now

Froling probably should have played about 3x as many minutes tonight.

Kind of regretting my decision to take Long out of my Fantasy team!

Wow Conger has had a shocker.

Wiley probably should've taken the opportunity to milk that contact and head to the changerooms with how badly he's been dominated tonight.

I love how homocide calls out players, even the ones from New York

Probably time to bring back Sobey.

Shaun Long might just will his team over the line

Oh my. Long is beasting Wiley.

Nbl refs call the game by FIBA rules. Flopping is in FIBA rules

Down 6 with 6 left - DOYLE TIME.

Sobey understandably very pissed off about that offensive foul. Was clearly a rubbish call and stopped the Sixers momentum. I would be pissed too if I was sobey considering he is regularly targeted by the refs for flopping and when weeks flops, he gets the call. Plays like that show further shouldn’t be a flop rule as our nbl refs are clearly not good enough to tell the difference between what is and what isn’t a flop.