Hoops

Sydney v Adelaide Jan 19

Kickert was being a massive tool the whole game and it was Kickerts blood. However, it wasn’t a great look.

Daniel Johnson of the Adelaide 36ers has been fined $500 for unsportsmanlike behaviour following an incident in last Saturday's game against the Sydney Kings

"Daniel Johnson of the Adelaide 36ers has been fined $500 for unsportsmanlike behaviour following an incident in last Saturday's game against the Sydney Kings."

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They'll just keep spending until they buy a title. The league will get it done at some stage like they did with United last year.

Gaze is the common denominator there but JVG put these sides together. It’ll be interesting to see what the new owner does come seasons end.

"Gaze season 1 - no 1 and no 5. Gaze season 2 - no 5. Gaze season 3 - no 4."

Who's the common denominator there? That's your problem

Someone needs to call the police! There's been murder on the boards!

Someone needs to call the police! There’s been murder on the boards!

Majok Deng the only Sixer shot jacking and failing to shoot over 50%.

There are 4 problems with the Kings: First is balance- Gaze season 1 - no 1 and no 5. Gaze season 2 - no 5. Gaze season 3 - no 4. Second is rebounds - every team are going to miss shots. You need to get rebounds and second chance shots. If the Kings offence (which is run by GAZE) is the shuffle, then to sit all your players around the 3 point line - how are they going to rebounds with no one in the paint? The lack of rebounding is also due to their last problem. Thirdly Bogut is not as good as his mates/commentators make out that is the MVP centre- he is too slow to defend the perimeter, and thus looks ordinary against anyone who can shoot the 8 footer - DJ, Wiley, Froling, Angus Beef, and Conklin. Don't have to be a genius coach- 8 footer or fake and drive. Lastly lack of athleticism - I'm sure all the Kings players are trying their hardest and the desire is there, but they are just too old and/or not athletic enough. How can you out-rebound a team who have 10 out of 11 players who consistently dunk and play above the ring - whilst on the Kings only Bogut and Deng Deng.

There are 4 problems with the Kings: First is balance- Gaze season 1 - no 1 and no 5. Gaze season 2 - no 5. Gaze season 3 - no 4. Second is rebounds - every team are going to miss shots. You need to get rebounds and second chance shots. This is partly due to their last problem. Thirdly Bogut is not as good as his mates/commentators make out that is the MVP centre- he is too slow to defend the perimeter, and thus looks ordinary against anyone who can shoot the 8 footer - DJ, Wiley, Froling, Angus Beef, and Conklin. Don't have to be a genius coach- 8 footer or fake and drive. Lastly lack of athleticism - I'm sure all the Kings players are trying their hardest and the desire is there, but they are just too old and/or not athletic enough. How can you out-rebound a team who have 10 out of 11 players who consistently dunk and play above the ring - whilst on the Kings only Bogut and Deng Deng.

If Joey didn't pick up Sobey when he did I wonder what he would be doing right now? Hodgeson was an injury prone discard too when he brought him on board.

Probably Joey's best claim to be a good players coach is the maturity, self cpontrol and mental consistency that DJ and Sobey seem to have finally achieved. I can't think at the moment of any other confirmed (IMHO) NBL "head cases" that have actually left the that "players club membership" while still playing NBL, and even more so - have actually gotten better as players.

Considering Sobey has played the point guard all season, comparing him to Glidon and Goulding is not a true indication in his worth this season. While all three have been good Sobey has been very good and deserves the raps. Cadee has also had his best season playing the point for Brisbane.

Interesting question Uncle Phil. The thing I like about Sobey this season is he's developed more dimensions to his offensive game. He can now score in so many ways. He was always good on the fast break but he's added a lot to his arsenal. Combine that with the fact that he's had to carry the ball a lot more this season without a recognised point guard and never takes a break on defense. He's putting together a seriously good season.


Are there any other guards you'd take ahead of Sobey this season? The only 2 that come to mind are Gliddon and Goudling. Both shoot the three better than Sobey but for mine Sobey just does more on the court and is more dynamic. He passes and rebounds better than both of these guys despite being smaller and I'd take his defence over both of these guys too. It is a close call between Gliddon and Sobey especially the way Gliddon is shooting this season. 44% FG%, 42% 3pg% and 94% FT% is very impressive. He has more poise than Sobey but can also be a little passive at times. The same could not be said of
Sobey.


Is he the best Sixer guard since Maher? I think so too. I'd take him over Gibo as his skillset is a lot bigger.

Full credit to Joey - you'd have to say the Sixers have had the best contingent of Aussie talent over the last few seasons with the evergreen DJ, Creek, Sobey, Hodgson, Drmic Deng and now Froling.

Forgot Ramone Moore under contract too.

Zodiac, you're usually pretty good with who is signed. Do we currently have DJ, Drmic, Froling and McVeigh signed for next season? Is there anyone else? Maybe Deng or Doyle?

Impresive game by the Sixers. Every player came on, seemed to know their role and contributed. Doyle has been giving some excellent minutes all season and McVeigh has done extremely well in the last couple of games when he has got an opportunity and has made a serious argument for more minutes. Froling continues to impress and as others said probably will be heading to the nba in the future. One of the great things about the Joey Wright era at the Sixers has been the recruitment and development of great young talent. Each year we seem to get some great young players who have a ton of confidence and are ready to produce. It has been an aspect that has been very satisfying to watch over the last few years.

I do struggle with what to make of Wiley. I haven’t been sold on him all season as he seems to make a lot of mistakes defensively, has an unreliable jump shot and doesn’t have great hands. Yet he has had a few games where he has just come out and dominated like today where he really got the Sixers going.

I must say I have become a huge Sobey fan this season. He seems to cop a bit of flack on this Forum but he has been the Sixers most consistent player both offensively and defensively this year. Defensively in particular, he impresses week after week and is almost always guarding the oppositions best perimeter player. A few things I would be interested to hear others thoughts on are:
1. Is there any Australian guard you would take ahead of Sobey in the league right now? (I think the only one close is Goulding but currently I would still take Sobey)
2. Is Sobey the best Australian guard the Sixers have had since Brett Maher? (I think yes, the only one close for me is Gibson but I think Sobey’s year this year has been better than any one of Gibson’s for the Sixers)

Probably the best I've seen the Sixers play from start to finish this season. There's every reason to be extremely positive about Froling. His skill set is impressive and expansive. What other big guys in the NBL can pull up on the break and nail a three like he did at the end of the first quarter? And he runs the floor brilliantly for a big man. So many things to like. Wiley's first half also deserves a mention. From his very first touch he looked the goods tonight.

It's a shame the Sixers lost 2 buzzer beaters at home to Brisbane and Illawarra and then had the 4th qtr fade out against Brisbane but they have made up for it with a number of impressive road wins.

The Wildcats will be fired up and looking for revenge Friday so looking forward to watching the Sixers in person to see how they handle it.

Jack McVeigh has provided very useful energy to the team and made Moore's loss less damaging.

Great to see him making the most of the opportunity given the things said by some of his knockers. I hope he can keep it up. I believe he is also contracted for next season.

"Froling is under contract next season."

Zodiac, you're usually pretty good with who is signed. Do we currently have DJ, Drmic, Froling and McVeigh signed for next season? Is there anyone else? Maybe Deng or Doyle?

"Adelaide 7-2 over the last 9 games and appear to be settling with Conger in the line up for a while and improved intensity, rebounding and bench production. Aside from an awesome 4th quarter by Brisbane turning a 9 point deficit into a solid road win, Adelaide appear to have each team's measure building at the right time of season. 3 last shot losses have them fighting to be in the top 4. Ball bounces differently on those and Adelaide are top at 15-7. Pretty impressive with the key players gone from last season’s team and a few rookies coming in and really contributing. Wonder if people are still questioning Doyle’s signing now as 9/10th man? He’s been very solid if not very good in the regular, occasional minutes Joey uses him for."

Great post there Cavolo! It does put the Brisbane game into perspective - though I am still spitting chips that we lost that by going away from what worked in the first three quarters!

Bogut fouled out but they also let a lot of his fouls slide. Probably getting away with more since his dummy spit earlier in the season.

those people who said Adelaide would be good once Conger settled in were right. He has now and the sixers look as good as anyone in the league.

Adelaide 7-2 over the last 9 games and appear to be settling with Conger in the line up for a while and improved intensity, rebounding and bench production. Aside from an awesome 4th quarter by Brisbane turning a 9 point deficit into a solid road win, Adelaide appear to have each team’s measure building at the right time of season. 3 last shot losses have them fighting to be in the top 4. Ball bounces differently on those and Adelaide are top at 15-7. Pretty impressive with the key players gone from last season’s team and a few rookies coming in and really contributing. Wonder if people are still questioning Doyle’s signing now as 9/10th man? He’s been very solid if not very good in the regular, occasional minutes Joey uses him for.

It’s the way it crumbles then fumbles.

Yeah, Froling is out of the NBL soon and hopefully changes agents.

Froling*
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Froling is under contract next season.

apparently at least one NBA is exceptionally keen to get foolings a multi-year contract , if only ensure that 10% it goes to Hheal entirely up front, so Heal will have some money to be sued for. ;)

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5719185/Fraud-charges-against-basketball-great-Shane-Heal-dropped-witness-no-show.html

Heal does talk his mates up which is shit, but Froling is the real deal, forget Perth he is nba bound.

Come on now it was clearly Kickert's own blood.

Nice to give the big money pretty boys a smashing on their own court. We're 3-1 against the Kings this season if we make the playoffs they will do everything they can to avoid playing a series against us. I said before the season DJ would be a tough match up for Bogut.

Remmeeber it's the way it shatters that matters.

(Heal)

Probably. He's such a narcissist.

That was a quality beatdown.

It’s not only Gazes fault, his side is old and his bench can’t defend a under 12 team. JVG has put three sides together talking it up from day one, why is he still there, the new owner should punt him.
Kings need three wins and should make finals but if Bogut gets fouled out or injuries there gone.

Does Heal pick his own interviewees?

Anon316

I am not in business with Heal. (I still have some money and common sense).

Sorry Sixers, but I hope Froling signs with Perth so I get a new super villain to cheer against, because it's been awhile since Redhage suited up and no one else has really made the cut yet.

If we just judged the second half of the season, could Froling win both ROTY and 6th man awards???

OK. Heals love for Froling is giving me the sh%$s

Oh, he is his agent. Thanks right

He sure did. Abhorrent by DJ.

Did Johnson wipe blood on Kickert?? That would be disgusting.

At least we get some Wilson minutes.

People looking in the record books for the last time a team put up this many points

The thought of the Cats not making the top 4 because we lose this game has made me feel a little bit better, thanks anon.

Has Gaze given up on Turner already?

Gaze is off contract. That's the most important one.

Another nail in the cats coffin. This sixers team is worthy of a playoff spot they can do some damage.

Who is still under contract for the kings, need a clean out.

Adelaide are coming, make no doubt about it.