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Something Has To Be Done About Adelaide 36ers

Was just listening to this week's The Dribble podcast and Hire mentioned that wins vs Adelaide were a little sweeter than most due to the way they carry on. (He also mentioned that BJ Johnson was talking shit to him at half time of the last Cats-36ers game, so the United game wasn't the first time he has mouthed off without backing it up with anything on the court)
I don't know that making opponents extra-motivated to beat you is a wise approach in any sport. Those types of teams are rarely the ones holding up the trophy at the end of the season. It's a display of mental weakness IMO.

I've never seen a sporting team from coach to players who all have chips on their shoulders. 36ers act and play like it.

The ref bashing during the finals was created because the league penalised him for saying what everyone was in Australia was thinking.

Complain to Melb about Melb and the nbl went to town on it.
How bad was Vaughan Mayberry with the Wesley headbutt, 2m away watching at the time and shrugs it off. 2nd headbutt were Prather walked from the baseline to the new inbound mark, headbutts Sobey and then the only thing Vaughan wanted to penalise was Sobeys defence of himself. Not to mention players who were no longer part of the Melb entering the playing arena and having conflicts with Sixers players and getting a lessor fine than what the development player got this last week.

Joey has every right to scream BS. Every coach in the league is out of control, But the nbl along with some of the beneficiaries can only see Joey.

I think Joey suffers a good case for institutional racism from within the nbl and the general fanbase.

PeterJohn

Sensible analysis and interpretation of player behaviours and emotional self-regulation development. It all seems to be very balanced, you’ve considered ages and backgrounds on the apparent maturity levels of individual players without resorting to sweeping generalisations or personal sleights. Overall, I think you’re probably close to the truth.

No place for it on Hoops.

^Isaac +1

"A far better example would be Sobey."
Yes. I think Sobey's progression over the last 3 years is very instructive. This season I think Wright has had a few too many young, emotionally immature players and it's affected the team dynamic. He was able to manage when there was only one or two at but this year he has at least four who are of that ilk.

I actually think Froling has made progress over this season, on the behavioural front. I get the sense he's trying to be more measured but not always managing it. Hell, he's only 20 and players like Bradtke were similarly immature at that age. Not every 20 year old starting his NBL career can be as mature as Maher was.

I also think Wiley is similarly trying, but struggling. I see him spending less time posturing after scores and more getting back on defence. I also think he's a different proposition to theother young turks as he's a little older and his behaviours are more embedded. But he's the same age Sobey was 4 seasons ago and so there's plenty of potential to get his head straight.

Emotionally, on the basketball court McVeigh to me looks to be about where Sobey was 4 seasons ago. Given what Sobey has achieved since then, I'm hopeful McVeigh can follow a similar path. McVeigh is 22 and should know better but there's probably a competitive thing going on with the other young players as well (at least in his head). He's been the last of them to come off the bench and play meaningful minutes this season (and only because Moore got injured). So again potential for large improvement with the right mentoring and environment.

Maybe this year's roster was just too dominated by young players? As well as lacking that mature leader on court to support Wright's message and basically get the younger players to pull their heads in. Mitch Creek might have been the right person for that role, but I think Johnson doesn't suit that role.

I'm okay with Wright and his coaching. The ref bashing and the like I can do without but I feel the same about most of the players and coaches in the NBL.

I think Wright's done and continues to do an outstanding job on the team coaching and player development side. His game day tactics don't always make sense and perhaps he needs a strong assistant coach to provide good advice on adjustments during games. I don't mind having him coaching the 36ers for another few years.

ninenews will run the story ' nbl denies plot to undermine joey wright '... ....if you've got the time...

"Facts are Joey is one of the greatest coaches in the history of the NBL" THats an insult to the Lindsay Gazes, Goorjians and many many more NBL great coaches.
3 years more of Joey. Enjoy.

Why would they approach a no name DP to give a free logo when there are actual players without one. Dude paid for it.

Well, Ken Cole was having a word to him at half time of the last game. Who knows, maybe it was Ken's instruction to get more physical?

I agree, Joey has done a lot of good for Adelaide but has to back off re thee abuse, I think the club should get someone in who Joey respects and say settle down, give him a hard word of advice. Adelaide play a great style of basketball, but an assistant coach that was more regimented in offence and defence would also help when the high tempo style gets stopped.
The million dollar question is will Joey take it on board.

Yes, creek did improve during his time under Joey. But creek was also known as a pretty hard working guy so I'm not sure that improvement would only have been achieved under Joey.

A far better example would be Sobey. Wasn't he a Cairns development player before coming to Adelaide? Joey seems to have fast tracked his growth

Joey is clearly an excellent coach and has done a great job at identifying and developing young talent on a limited budget. His results have been good for the 36ers. The comparison to the Marty Clarke days is second to none.

However...

His behaviour on the sideline and attitude towards officials MUST improve. Seeing him carry on the way he did in the finals last year about how it was rigged for Melbourne and consistently abusing and bagging referees/the league over his tenure has been embarassing for the club. This has gradually filtered to the players over time and the team repeatedly has boneheads moments with constant scuffles/technicals etc which have cost them.

The front office needs to show leadership and pull his behaviour into line. I would hate to lose him as a coach as I would fear that the club returns to the results of the pre Joey era. This behaviour cannot carry from the players/coaches. Tough however as him and Big Joe are best mates. Joey has 3 years left on his deal.

Lmao @ Joey identifying creek. Creek was a hyped and touted prospect from the day he came into the NBL, which was before Joey coached him

Creek was at Adelaide before Joey.

Should I opt out of My Health Record?

Froling the fake tough guy.

I should hope so. It's a nice logo. Multiple colorways too. Solid effort. Thumbs up.

Why would they approach a no name DP to give a free logo when there are actual players without one. Dude paid for it.

he has not been found guilty. he has been charged with (1) unduly rough play and (2) unsportsmanlike behaviour for the amounts of $650 and $500 respectively. early guilty pleas will reduce those to $450 and $375

Dickhead has been found guilty of 2 charges and fined.

Doesn't Wright have a five year deal???

Spuds fml

“ZSB worked personally on the branding for professional basketballer, Bijan Johnson of the Adelaide 36ers”

Because I actually went to the link you spurs

So, Joey will still be here next year?

@NBL

The Game Review Panel has charged @Adelaide36ers player Bijan Johnson with unduly rough play and unsportsmanlike behaviour following incidents that occurred at the conclusion of their game against @MelbUnitedHQ #NBL19

so , joey wanted an unsportsmanlike for moller pushing bj....
joey ' bj , push him back '
joey fired up bj and when kennedy said something on the walk pass , a fired up ,by joey , bj pushed kennedy...

Adelaide’s offence fell apart accordingly, and in a now-familiar last quarter manner, the Sixers’ shot selection and halfcourt decision-making turned to manure.

“We played together, but we didn’t play well,” Wright said, crediting Melbourne for its performance.

As for the absurd post-game incident and its culprit, a kid with attitude when he should have shown gratitude, Wright saw it differently.

“Every team needs a BJ, every team needs a BJ,” the coach said. “And that kid, in a couple of years, when he gets it all together, is going to be a dynamite player.

“I mean, there’s not any Australians in the league as quick as him, that’s for sure.

“He’s got some things to work on but his ability to finish around the rim and get past people is uncanny. So he plays with a lot of fire but every team needs that, every good team needs that.”

Every good team may “need that” but Adelaide is far from a good team, once again blowing a chance to relegate Brisbane from the top four and running halfcourt sets in which players even ran into each other, such was their level of confusion.

Someone needs a Conor McGregor sign in the next away game that says, "who tha fook is this guy".

Bijan loves the bump at half time as the opposition team goes to the rooms. He tried the same thing earlier in the year against Kenny (who was having a standard anonymous game - so no need to get in his head) and Kenny just turned around after the bump like "who the fuck are you" look on his face.

Anon above, how do you know that link is the same Johnson? It says 'pro basketballer'

“We aimed to capture his fun personality in this branding exercise through his iconic hairstyle and ‘larger than life’ smile.”

http://sportsbranding.com.au/project/bijan-johnson-pro-basketballer/

Moller's reaction was worse? he laughed and pushed the no name away. So much worse than the small dick syndrome act that DP displayed, right?

It's funny how Sixer fans claim that "both" McCarron and Kennedy started it..

Johnson pushes Kennedy then all the hero Sixer players go after Kennedy, who is back peddaling like he was the instigator

Nuff Nuff Froling laughing in the presser about an error on the stat sheet (look coach, they gave you five offensive rebounds) then claims that Johnson was angry because people wouldn't shake his hand? Yeah, flogs from top to bottom. Maybe they should stick to trying to extort money out of Creek?

Neither Larkins nor Bijan have shown any development under Joey. Nelson’s been there over 5 years now! Must be nice to have a famous surname. Anyone know who Bijans related to?

I mean let's face it, Adelaide has all the form on the board.

Wright is no stranger to little try-hard fisticuffs after the game. Perth incident anyone?

You'd think after Sobey's headbutt incident, you'd think after Randle's comments and then losing to Illawarra the year before, you'd think Wright would want his players to tone down the unnecessary reckless aggression and have them focusing on the game. But nah, old Joey seems more interesting in egging them on.

Yeah, you're right, apples and oranges. A level headed, normal guy vs a young hothead.

Funny how Adelaide seems to be in the middle of this all so often. Funny how Adelaide often seems to create something worth retaliating against, hey?

You saw the footage of the hand shake incident, I assume? Johnson pushed Kennedy. Kennedy never laid a finger on Johnson.

Tell me, if a Melbourne player recklessly slapped the ball away from his opponent after the ref blew his whistle, would Vickerman be whinging to the ref, and then yelling out and instructing his player to take the opponent out? Or do you think Vickerman would be having a quiet word with his own player?

LV...Bijan is a Development Player, DJ Kennedy is a high priced import. You're comparing apples with oranges.

Also, Melb and Perth aren't squeaky clean...I think you are conveniently missing a lot of stuff that happens behind the play and off the ball.

Adelaide do retaliate a little too much but don't go thinking it goes unwarranted.

Both McCarron and Kennedy got in Bijans face after the game (I dont know what was said) but it was clear both of them started it, he then just retaliated. Thing is, if they dont start nothing then he has nothing to retaliate against. This is the problem with society, not just the Adelaide 36ers.

Forgot about Johnson's 0 from 2 from the line!

Adelaide needs to recruit players who will contribute more than BJ Johnson....

Tale of the tape- DJ Kennedy vs BJ Johnson

DJ Kennedy:
16 points
9 rebounds
6 assists
3 steals
6/13 FG
2 three pointers
Played a key role in his team's 23 point win

BJ Johnson
0 points
2 fouls
3 fake tough guy moves
1 horrendous 90's haircut
1 post game scuffle instigated
1 bruised ego
Only got on court cos his team was getting blown out

Thanks for your input mrs Johnson

Great to see. Imploding team and fans. Joey is a shorter cancer. 4 years to go?

Johnson is 24?

He was head butted twice before he retaliated and I don’t think these needs to be brought up AGAIN. This time last year you would have a point but he has had huge growth this year.

^ the problem with that is Sobey is just as big of a flog. Don't forget his stupid headbutt in the Grand Final last year which hurt his team.

oh shit, I just found his logo. that's hilarious.

If I’m DJ and Sobey I am sitting down the players and telling them how crap it is to play in such a disrespectful team. Only issue is Joey sees nothing wrong with it and would probably punish his leaders.

massive flogo

Doesn’t Bijan have his own logo or something. Massive flog