Hoops

Sydney Kings commercial success in season 18/19

Without the owner of the team owning the stadium as well, I wonder how that will impact the numbers?

Does anyone else get a Firepower feeling with no-one knowing what TSE actually does? lol...

Last I heard it cost $80k to open Ogden.

So here are the extreme scenarios:

A - No tickets given away at all in 2018-19 season: Then 1,668 tickets would have been given away per game in 2017-18 and the average paying crowds would have been 4,652 (2017-18) and 8,932 (2018-19)

B - Same number of tickets given away in both seasons. Then 3,481 tickets per game would have been given away per game in each season and the average paying crowds would have been 2,839 and 5,451.

C - More tickets given away in 2018-19 season than in the 2017-18 season. In this scenario, the number of paid tickets per game in each season is always smaller than scenario B above.

So 2017-18 paid crowds must have been between about 2840 and about 4650 and 2018-19 paid crowds were between about 5450 and about 8930.

Sorry, posted too quickly. I forgot that the number of unpaid tickets may have changed between the two years. Will do the calculations properly when I get home from work.

"The number of tickets sold increased by 92% from 2017/18
...average attendance at Qudos Bank Arena increased by greater than 2,500 per game from the 2017/18 season (6,320 to 8,932)."

Based on those numbers, the then they're saying there was an average, at most, of 5,450 paid tickets per game. So they gave away about 3,500 or more tickets per game. Or did they play some games at other venues, which might screw up the calculations?

Importantly, it means they were only getting about 2,840 paid tickets per game in the previous season. Suddenly Illawarra's crowds don't seem so bad.

You will never see real numbers.

Not to be overly picky, but their averages numbers don't add up... Also, if you take out the top two attendances which really boosted the numbers, it's much less impressive... Especially considering you have two past MVPs and a legit Aussie NBA star and NBA Championship winner on your roster... I still consider attendances a significant Fail...

As for the other increases in membership and ticket sales, I'd wager it's like a veteran player who used to be good but then got shit and then had a standout year and earns the Most Improved award... The "good" numbers only look good because the ones the past few seasons have been so shit... Until they give ACTUAL numbers and not manipulated increase values only, I'm not impressed in the slightest...

If you're looking to do anything other than lose money, buying an NBL team isn't for you. NBL teams should be for basketball fans with deep pockets who love the game enough to throw cash at it. It still is not a sound business decision to own a team, other than MAYBE Perth.

The one trying to sell their tickets to GF G2 popped up briefly as well. I assume it's a spambot of some description.

That was my post from way down

Why do old topics keep getting regurgitated?

Hello once again,

Have changed my process for this season, hope it is an improvement, but like all BSA comps, still has its flaws.

I have taken the top 3 teams from each club in an age group (note: U10 and U18 girls only 2 grades) and ranked each club according to where their top 3 teams would finish if all clubs nominated a div 1,2,3 team. Then worked out which teams would make fnals.

Obviously, not all club have three teams in all age groups, nor have nominated in all div 1 or 2 grades. Along with double div 2 teams, it might be seen to unfairly go against those clubs who do not have a full 28 teams. But IMHO 15 boys and 13 girls teams should a somewhat baseline for clubs.

So the results are...

Boys

Sturt 15 out of 15 teams or 100%
Forestville 12 out of 15 teams or 80%
Norwood 8 out of 15 teams or 53%
North 6 out of 15 teams or 40%
Southern 5 out of 15 teams or 33%
Woodville 5 out of 15 teams or 33%
South 4 out of 15 teams or 27%
West 2 out of 15 teams or 13%
Centrals 2 out of 15 teams or 13%
Eastern 1 out of 15 teams or 7&

Girls

Forestville 13 out of 13 teams or 100%
Sturt 12 out of 13 teams or 92%
Norwood 6 out of 13 teams or 46%
West 5 out of 13 teams or 38%
Southern 4 out of 13 teams or 30%
Eastern 4 out of 13 teams or 30%
North 3 out of 13 teams or 23%
South 3 out of 13 teams or 23%
Woodville 2 out of 13 teams or 15%
Centrals 1 out of 13 teams or 8%

Overall

Sturt 27 out of 28 teams or 96%
Forestville 25 out of 28 teams or 89%
Norwood 14 out of 28 teams or 50%
North 9 out of 28 teams or 32%
Southern 9 out of 28 teams or 32%
South 7 out of 28 teams or 25%
West 7 out of 28 teams or 25%
Woodville 7 out of 28 teams or 25%
Eastern 4 out of 28 teams or 25%
Centrals 3 out of 28 teams or 25%

In the sum up

Sturt - still just out in front on Forestville, but only just. Boys are dominant. Sturt girls doing better than Forestville boys.

Forestville - maybe their best year to date. Could argue they are in front of Sturt after State Champs. Girls are dominant but boys are not up to it.

Norwood - have certainly dropped back to the pack. Good results in higher age group boys. Maybe the country injection will move them back away from the rest.

North - Improved at U10 boys level. Good for the future. Girls need a similar syimulus because outside of 16 girls are really struggling.

Southern - Down a bit on last year, will be interesting which direction it is heading. Sounds of a club dividing itself and results reflect that.

South - Opposite to North in that it has good results in U10 girls numbers. Other than that U10 boys is the only bright spot. But at least that is somewhere to start.

West - Already seen on here that they are struggling. Not sure that the Magic merger, or player intake really helped. Girls have some strong groups.

Woodville - Opposite to West. Good boys results, but girls are struggling.

Eastern - under perform dueto a lack of numbers. And boys arent really close. But some strong girls groups in 16's and 18's.

Centrals - for all the talk of strong coaching groups and development. Will the exodus send them under now without the country kids. Where will their teams come from?