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What if NZBL and NBL 1 joined forces

A true second tier would be great but it would still benefit from being played in winter to give development opportunities for the first tier, NBL development players benefit from a season of training with a professional team then have an outlet for the improvement. Current NBL1 teams (maybe cull a few) plus regional teams from other states (or even an offseason NBL team such as the Wildcats or 36ers) could be the expansion.

For example
Current NBL1- 18 teams

plus hypothetically:
West Sydney Razorbacks
Hunter Pirates/Newcastle Falcons
Gold Coast Rollers
Sydney Supersonics
Brisbane Capitals
Sunshine Coast Rip City
Rockhampton Rockets
Mackay Meteors
Townsville Heat
Cairns Marlins
Perth Panthers
Adelaide Sixers

I know its a pipe dream but would be great for Australian basketball. Using the old NBL team names would be great also!

Leaving NSW out or are they part of NBL1?

IMO if all teams in those leagues were included, eventually, in NBL1, then there definately would be issues of costs and schedules. QBL has 14 teams, NBL1 umpteen, etc. How to pay for all those games and when to play them!

Couple of representative/regional type teams, rostered with players from their regions' State League clubs collectively, couple of imports per team.

State league teams not disrupted at all. And this is important! ALL OF OUR PLAYERS START THERE.

So, local assocs play in their states' leagues as they currentl do, no changes. (3rd tier - nationally).
NBL1 (or whatever name) develops a national comp with rep/regional teams (as described earlier) with a couple of NZ teams (if you like). (2nd tier).
NBL (top tier).
[NB*: NBL1 and state leagues don't compete. NBL1 competes with NBL. Sorta like most footy codes, I guess. So, your NBL team is on an away game and your NBL1 team is in your region (at least), you can still get live, top level b/ball all of the main season, with your local team doing what it's always done. And your fave players are avail all year and your best players, a chance to really crack the NBL.]
[Further NB*: Let me rant about the Standard of teams I would expect. In Qld (which I know best), with 2 regional teams in NBL1, North and South, as described prev post, I know we could offer 2 great teams. Current NBL1 could possibly offer 5 or 6 great teams but still only allowed the 2, maybe 3 if say Tas/WA/ only offer 1 each. No more talk re NBL1 teams would sh*t on any other teams or Qld beter than NZNBL. Couple of teams for each state, with players chosen from "their" regional assocs' state league teams, with a couple of imports each, would even it all out.]
[Further, further NB*: DPs. NBL Development players seem to miss out on any benefits, so far. They are already tied up with their NBL clubs' schedule. Here's what could happen. Nothing different, a DP plays state league in his off season and bench for NBL season. Or, NBL clubs get involved in this 2nd tier by renting their DPs to their local 2nd tier team for their 1st year.]
That's enough, unless, of course, I think of anything else I know you all want to read!

I would be happy seeing a tournament with SBL , NBL 1, NZBL, QBL and SA premier league teams playing against each other.

There doesn't seem much point in joining forces and then needing to have conferences. May as well just leave things as they are now and hope that the NBL1 expansion happens.

The Hobart Huskies are playing in the NBL1 idiot.

second tier plays before the main game eg

under 18s
under 21s
second tier DP players injured recovery players
main team

how on earth does this pay for itself? state league games pull in, what, 300-500 people? you really think there's an appetite for a second tier competition that competes with AFL and NRL?

Much, much better off starting off with a well-organise, live-streamed NBL1/QBL/SBL tournament, maybe even throw the winners up against the NZBL winners if you're desperate to have a kiwi presence in there.

Anonymous ##030,
Do you have a better suggestion for a 2nd tier competition?

The city names are just for sake of argument what I'm saying is have 9 Aust based teams.

It goes without saying alot of adjustments would be needed but Robt I appreciate your input.

The current NZBL competition finishes in June.
Canberra arent NBL1 capable.
Adelaide weren't SEABL capable.
Brisbane left the SEABL.
Sydney and Illawarra haven't been in the SEABl for almost 2 decades.
Top NBL players not restricted? Nah.

A hypothetical response.

The sugested schedule would overlap our state leagues. So, as the 2nd tier comp would attract the better/best players, each state league team would lose their best players. They can't play in 2 comps each weekend, can they?

What if the schedule ran during the NBL season. That would exclude the NBL players who would play in either the state league or NZNBL/NBL1 comps in their off season anyway, so does that matter as much?

Presumably, a team like Brisbane Caps would still play QBL, at full strength, but Brisbane ????, in the NZNBL/NBL1 would be a team chosen from say, Caps, Spartans, Pirates and the 2 Sunny Coasters. Similarly, Goldie could recruit from Rollers, Seahawks and Thunder. All of these players would then be avail for their state league teams and for the new comp. (then, our NBL players could still play with state league teams, if they wanted to).

On the scenario above the 2 QLD teams could then become northern and southern. North would be Cairns, Townsvile, Makay, Rockie and GLadstone, south would include Ipswich & Towwomba with those mentioned above.

If this 2nd tier comp had rosters of the best, or at least, chosen players from their state league comps teams, and none were already NBLers or DPs, it would be fair to assume that this league would display the best of the rest, all together, and ready for fill-in or even replacement NBL roles if needed.

As previous posts (of mine) will attest, I'm all for a real 2nd tier league. So I'll buy in on any hypothetical on that theme. Cheers.

Crocs win 78-68. Missed M Cedar and Holmes. Withers had 5 points, Forte 4.

Kings were without Harvey and Bruce but got 21 from Lazare and 15 from Madgen. Three players in double figure boards for Sydney.

Crocs' top was PC with 19, then Allen with 16, Norton 13 and Blanchfield 12.