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Southern Huskies NBL Bid

Lots of trouble in paradise, I’m hearing a cut off time this evening.
Anyone else getting a similar story, but those bagging Bartlett might have to reconsider.

Muo would’ve been a better option than Bilups, no matter how many dunks he has, Zac White might be under size but he plays defence. Jones and Vanderburg have added not much, Bilups is very good under the bucket but when matched up on any one his size he struggles, defensively very ordinary. White, Moller , Muo, Cummings, Nichols would play as a unit, add Michaels if fit, Bj Radcliffe Masunda in a team system and they wouldn’t have had a worse record than what has been achieved this season, probably better.

if the Huskies team get in the NBL, what does the squad look like

To many stat padders in huskies, they were never a chance and with Moller out never a chance. It’s always hard to put a first year team together on short notice, maybe should have just stuck with last years team, would not have gone any worse.

Huskies beaten by 26, down by 31 at halftime, played their bench after halftime. No Moller no Huskies.

Crowds at Hobart have been quite ok, looked like about 2500 against the rams, Launceston not that good. The Huskies should should just be nznbl, and nbl. Let the Hobart Huskies be run by btas or not at all.

"They've entered and made all these teams so that they can prove to the NBL that they can operate a franchise at a high level."

That you believe and accept that simply demonstrates the depth of the confusion.

As has been shown with SEM, to get your own NBL Franchise, all you need is the money. Period.
Then you have to find a venue, so if you want one to be based in Tas you've got to refurb the DEC, so again, MONEY.

Simple fact is that if they had enough money, they would already be preparing their team for next season (just like SEM.)

Your best bet is get all the Huskies fans you can muster to chip in a few bucks and buy as many entries as possible for the $70M Lotto jackpot.

Popcorn.

"No I think the cash injection has more to do with the fact that they're running multiple teams than their ability to possibly sustain one."

Are you suggesting the Southern Huskies NZNBL team is sustainable?

LMAO, don't think so.

The Hobart Huskies are the Chargers rebadged.

The Chargers had been around for years and appeared to be going from strength to strength.

The Chargers were getting thousands to their games late last season, the Hobart Huskies are getting maybe 250 spectators to their games.

Well done (not) Southern Huskies your entry into the sport has really messed Tas basketball up and now the government has to bail you out.

The state government has already had to bail the Southern Huskies out of its financial crisis.

Without cut price and free tickets there was embarrassingly poor support for the Huskies

Even with the now standard ticket giveaway offerings support is modest in the south and atrocious in the north.

Face it Tasmania, as a state you never have been able to commercially support teams playing on the national stage and without government subsidy you never will.

Tassie news is full of hospital waiting list problems, housing price and homeless people issues, government ripping off their public servants with below CPI wage increases and the state government throws tax payer money away like this!

Basketball Australia have come out and said Tasmania will definitely be getting a team,its just of matter of when,the Southern Huskies are expected to move into the Australian NBL within 2 to 3 years.

I don't think there would be actual confusion as to which team is what, more like wtf type confusion over what is happening, what their goals and aims are, etc.

The Huskies brand was birthed supposedly to bid for an NBL franchise. That bid now APPEARS to be dead in the water. (Not debating whether it is or isn't, just saying how things must appear to many)

Now they are competing in both the NBL1, AND the NZNBL, and to a casual observer its not very clear why.

I guess if you clearly enunciated that the NZNBL was a stepping-stone to the NBL, and that you wanted to build crowds, support, and membership, to springboard up to the NBL, that MIGHT work.
But then why have the NBL1 team?

Fact is that a lot of people are going to sit back and wait until its clear what is happening.

Anon #6622 You nailed it. I know many people did not know the difference between the Hobart and Southern Huskies. The starting ticket prices were also ridiculous. Massive errors there.

Get as many people in as possible to start off and you can charge higher prices once it has atmosphere and a 'have to be there' event!

"There will still only be 28 games this season, so series are already uneven"

Whilst I would prefer they go to 32 games, perhaps this is an acknowledgement that they plan to expand the league further, and the current 4 game series just aren't sustainable.

This may also have been in mind in their switch to percentage as the separator this season, as h2h would be completely unfair in an unbalanced fixture.

Conceptually, if you had the right backers, I could see a 2nd Sydney team, a Canberra team, and a 2nd NZ team. That's 12 even without the Huskies.

Would the lack of crowds be a result of having the NBL1 Huskies team in competition for attention ?

The Huskies game last night was very dull, no atmosphere at all, worst game I have been to of the 4 played at the DEC.

All the DEC games have been boring, very little crowd involvement in any of them.

Essentially the only reason I have kept going after the first game was cheap tickets, anyone I spoke to at the game says the same.

If the Huskies games are an example of near live NBL basketball vibe then the NBL can keep their product as far as I am concerned.

Especially if the NBL wants to charge premium ticket prices like the Huskies tried to do initially.

The Huskies cannot replicate the Chargers vibe and vibrancy and I doubt ever will.

I guess that's what happens when a 20 year old community based club is forced out of competition by a private concern in cahoots with BTas.

Save basketball!!!! Bring back the Chargers!

very good summary anon 599, can not rely on being able to come back from 15 or more each game

#569 it's just that every email they send lately is a BOGOF offer.

The emails they've been sending out recently are basically them begging people to come.

I'm thinking
Team 9 / South East Melbourne Phoenix - 2019/2020
20/21
Team 10 / Southern Huskies - 21/22
Team 11 / Wellington Saints - 22/23
Team 12 / Canberra Cannons - 23/24

Wait sometime before
Gold Coast
Newcastle
Geelong
Christchurch

Where have you heard that an announcement is looming,because I haven't heard anything.

There will still only be 28 games this season, so series are already uneven.

I like the current setup with 4 games, 2 home and 2 way, against each team.
With 9 teams, we'd get a 32 game regular season, and I think that;s fine.
We often play 2 games a week, so its not like AFL where you need to worry about byes.
At ten teams, that would be pushed to 36 games. Whilst that's not huge by international standards, it would start to push the length of the season and venue availability, especially in Melbourne with two teams and the Tennis.

Anything more than that, and we'd definitely be looking at un-even series, probably 3 games against each other team.
We've had it before, and if needs be it will happen again, but people will whinge if team A finishes ahead of team B because they got 2 home games.

Hopefully we see a Tasmanian and Wellington based team in the not too distant future.

"There was apparently an abc report a few nights ago that suggested the huskies are in financial strife..did anyone see it?"

Well, no shit.

As I said at the time, the guy behind the Huskies bid is a conman, who will make Tim Johnston & Firepower seem legitimate.
His big claim to fame is flogging over-priced water-bottles. A nice little earner I'm sure, but nowhere near enough to prop up an NBL franchise.
Like all such people, he's a master of the con, and of using OPM (Other Peoples' Money.)

Of course his apologists will make all sorts of ridiculous claims about the backing of Billionaires and other bullshit. All of which are easily disproven by their failure.
They need enough money to fund an NBL for several years at least, and enough money to make the DEC playable. They simply don't have it.

You know something stinks, when the entire bid is predicated on being given the DEC for next to nothing, and when he needed to start selling memberships and merchandise immediately to pay the bills.

It seems to be the Tasmanian way. Sit around on your ass smoking weed and expect the rest of Australia to bail you out.

As demonstrated with SEM, it's actually pretty simple. If you have a spare $20M to piss away, you can have your very own NBL franchise tomorrow (well next season anyway). And you can plonk that Franchise anywhere that has a suitable venue.

Want to make the Perth Bandits a reality? Just show LK the money

How was he supposed to compromise? You can not take the McCoy - Bartlett discussion out of it.

Anon 296 - do you work for BTAS? Some righteous calls on Bartlett. I am part of the bball community in the South and totally disagree with you.

I will never forget when the Chargers set up a youth academy, BTAS told them they could not do so as it was not in their scope ......days later they criticised the Chargers for not doing anything for youth in the south of the state. Could not win.

Seriously do not think Chargers fans are naive enough to believe that the state of basketball in the south is all down to Bartlett. BTAS have a bit to do with it '

anon 242 ....4 teams playing under NBL1 is Bartlett's fault or do you see it as a positive?

What do you see the role of BTAS?

Larry has been down here regularly over the last couple of months there will be movement ....how it is structured is unclear at this stage

Bartlett will be the head of the franchise, huskies will probably play out nz, but I’m hearing problems with the money.

have heard the same Paul....pity all the stakeholders couldn't play nicely together. realise that is naive

Huskies 10, Canberra and Wellington 11 and 12.

Struggling, bit more could come out in a week or so. Hope they haven’t bit off more than they can chew re having to run three teams.

Perth Bandits making it first.