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Game 2 - Boomers vs Canada

"Bolden gets less minutes than Kay, what a joke."

I wonder if the coaches are trying to get Kay and other NBL players to get the feel of playing against elite international teams? It would make sense.

As many posters have pointed out, Kay, Creek, Gliddon etc haven't had much opportunity to play international games outside of pretty meagre teams in the qualifying games. As other posters have said, World Cup standard opponents will provide far tougher opposition. So maybe the coaches are giving some players the change to prepare for the tournament that matters by playing them more in games that don't.

Kay played two minutes more than Bolden and was -3, Bolden was -9, watching both games Kay doesn’t seem to be a fit but it’s his hustle on D that most don’t see that makes him valuable.

The constant calls for Bolden over Kay are a bit surprising. I do agree that Bolden wins over Kay but apparantly Kay was a standout at the camp. If I'm already on Bolden's side, maybe I want Kay to have the opportunity, to prove me wrong.

I am not a Lemanis fan but in his place, on this issue, his problem is that Bolden was in and Kay was there to train against. Kay trains so well that he might just push Bolden out. How do you decide? Play the doubted one (Kay) against opposition, before it's too late.

Isn't that what pre-competiton games are all about, what works and what doesn't?

It seems that most of us have deided that it should be Bolden over Kay. Can we all hope that Lemanis makes the same choice on game-days?

PS. Thought that Goulding filled the exact role he should. I don't think that he will be instruemental overall, but as an impact off the bench for some outlandish 3's or some shut-down on an opponenet, whatever, if it works, good, if not, won't matter cos you can go back to (a solid) plan A. (Not well explained but you can work out what I mean.)

Canada's world ranking is meaningless.

Canada ranked 23 in the world.

Sack the coach now.

Selecting Sobey over Adel.

Playing Kay over Bolden.

How much time has Bolden played at the 4? He seems to be primarily playing at the 5. If that's the case, with either Bogut or Baynes resting, there are not many other reasonable options at the 4 when Landale is resting other than Kay.

Bolden gets less minutes than Kay, what a joke.

"That won't be our lineup
Our rotation at worlds needs to be strictly

Mills
Delly
Ingles
Bogut
Baynes
Landale
Goulding
Bolden"

Agree, but our coach will play all 12.

1/2 Mills/Delly/Goulding - old Pistons three guard rotation

Ingles 3
Bolden 3/4
Baynes 4/5

Landsdale 5
Bogut 5

Even then I would play Mills, Ingles and Baynes big minutes.

Bolden should be given a chance in the four, Kay, Sobey, Glidon to sit on back end bench. Goulding started and was fantastic.

Good to see them playing with more confidence in the 2nd half.

I spoke too soon about Bolden. When given the opportunity, he proved his worth. But you have to wonder how much court time he will get if he is always played as a 5 behind Bogut and Baynes.

Humphries is five, Kay a four, plus Humphries is so overrated it’s a joke. Creek proving he deserves to be there probably in Kay spot if Cook didn’t get hurt.

Better hustle now - perhaps the guys have got the message that they’ll need to win ugly through hard work when the shots aren’t dropping

@rjd

No financial windfall for BA from these games.

Gliddon, Kay and Sobey playing themselves out of the rotation at the moment.

1 assist from the bench in the first half.

Landale needs to be providing something because so far our other 4-men have looked lost/ineffective out there. Our 4-spot looks much weaker than Rio right now, which says something considered neither Baistow nor Motum looked particularly impressive in Rio.

Perhaps we should've played more practice games and gone with a 14-man lineup to start off with.

Russia, Brazil and Italy were in the same pot as Australia for the draw because they have similar world rankings.

Australia were drawn into a pool with Canada, Lithuania and Senegal.

We don’t play Russia, Brazil or Italy

No bench players looking good right now.

Canada don’t need Pangos in order to win.

Think i might go watch the cricket this is terrible atm

Kay struggling again big time, missing lay ups and doesn’t have length to defend.

Bolden seems a bit uncertain about what to do. And, with all the NBA players in the squad, why aren’t we seeing iso plays with movement off the ball to keep the other defenders from collapsing back to help?

Sobey at the one, what a joke.

Is Basketball Australia getting any of the money from the Canada and USA games? Surely that would add a sizable amount to their budget.

hey coach, flow isn't a set offense.

Carey carey carey

Bolden again injected as a 5. Even with either Bogut or Baynes resting, he still isn't being given so much court time.

I know in past Socceroos have camps in Europe with players based there a lot which helps. But surely in today's age where most of our best players are used to travel why not have a camp in Europe and have some games there. Wouldn't mind losing to teams away and would think it's a better bonding experience. Instead we play a second rate Canadian team at home and it just shows our weaknesses and dodgy selections.
Only positive I see is that Lemanis gets axed after champs and the young blood coming through get a decent coach instead of Mr Potato head.

No Bogut or Mills.

Canada employ a NBA head coach. Sure, he lives Toronto.

Why do we do the same?

#431 I’d add penny-pinching.

BA letting the Boomers down again.

If we have to spend extra to have a camp and games in Europe then ffs PAY FOR IT so that we can prepare properly! (Or spend mega-bucks to get a decent foreign coach.)

At least she managed to sing in time with the music tonight.

Let's see if Astrid Ripepi can redeem herself from her atrocious performance last night.

https://www.fibalivestats.com/u/AUSO/1310977/

https://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/video/22929475560/live-stream-international-basketball-series-australian-boomers-v-canada-game-2

So pick two teams, the first 12 and a second 12. Get a coach like Bevo to coach the second 12 and keep all separate. I bet the second 12 would be cracking to get at the best. It would be great practice.

"This is a continuing trend with Basketball Australia, not offering enough opportunities to practice against international opposition."

This is always going to be a problem for us because of our distance from decent competition (ie. Europe). Its why IMHO we struggle early in tournaments, because our players do not get to play together as often against strong competition.

Boomers by 10-15, I think we set a tone early on and it carries all the way through

Well said #431.

Anyone else concerned about the Boomers having only 4 warm-up games? Half against a team that we are guaranteed to play in the World Cup, which is limiting. I thought I read somewhere that they might play one more game in China before the World Cup, but not sure how seriously they can take that if it's just before their first game.


This is a continuing trend with Basketball Australia, not offering enough opportunities to practice against international opposition. It seems all other nations are having more practice games than us.

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Vickerman has taught Goulding about defence as well, he’ll surprise a lot.

I actually liked goulding in his few minutes. If he can come on for 5-10 and hit 2 or 3 triples then I think he is very worth.

Wouldn't surprise you? They have literally announced that that’s what they are doing.

I dont think there is too much to worry about honestly. Players just working into their roles and a lot of the shots were good shots just missing. Sobey looks very overwhelmed however and I honestly cannot stand Mills shot selection on the national team. Just needs to calm down on a few of those triple attempts. Ball was very stagnant at times with him running point too.

I actually liked goulding in his few minutes. If he can come on for 5-10 and hit 2 or 3 triples then I think he is very worth.

Like to see Creek get more time to see what he can give, even at the four, Bolden as well. Surely we have to play some defence as well.

Anything come from this over the weekend?

Nothing on the website.