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Maybe Bogut’s just trying to unsettle the Swiss housing market a bit, looking to buy in low?

wots the world's biggest criminal organisation ....
...fifa..

Olgun:

From yesterday: The FIBA Secretary General, Andreas Zagklis, said there "will be a disciplinary procedure" to investigate Andrew Bogut's post-game comments after Australia's semifinal loss.

FIBA is corrupt as F#%k

Australia brings little money in comparison to Europe and China they only care about their own fat pockets

I thought before the tournament, all the talk was about FIBA sucking up to China with an easy draw? And now it's actually that they are biased towards European teams?

Bogut has no idea just trying to take the spotlight off his terrible defence

I think Bogut was referring to the fact that the FIBA headquarters is in Switzerland and thus have Swiss bank accounts.... hint hint.... untrackable bribes being sent to refs swiss bank accounts.....

We had 2 opportunities to ice that game.

Spain never blitzed Mills until the last 5 minutes of the 4th. Lemanis never adjusted. We had the last possession however Lemanis had already used our timeouts. We walk out of the last time out in the first overtime with no-one having a clue what he wanted. Mills and Delly decided to make their own play, which at least allowed us to tie it up again.

Have to admit the call on Bogut was horrendous

Love that posters here don't go off on the refs when we know we have to accept this loss was on us.

This is the first Olympic or World Cup Semi Final where we have looked the better team. Previously we would have just hoped everything went right to get a win.

In this case we were just playing OK and still up by 10. We were just weren't good enough at the end to hang on. That is why this one hurts more than previous Semis.

Add to that we would have been a definite chance this time to get gold.

It was that crucial last call on Bogut that was the killer, the should have gone on Gasol, yes on the next play Mills went to stripe and got the call but game should have been over with ball in Australian hands.
Overall I agree the refereeing through out the tournament was top shelf but I can totally see why Bogut the warrior is pissed off.

And yeah, the call on Bogut/Gasol was terrible, but you do get that in basketball. There werent multiple bad ones across a game that impacted the game beyond the norm, like the Rio example.

We got robbed in Rio but this time the reffing wasn't terrible.

In fact, I think the reffing has been good overall in this tournament- a refreshing improvement compared to the NBL, where Mitch McCarron got pinged for 9 fouls across the first 2 finals games in Perth.... none of which was actually a foul, and where Perth routinely gets called for 8 or 10 fouls in an entire game in front of their red army, peculiarly enough getting away with defense that is considered illegal in any other stadium in Australia- except when UFC comes to Marvel.

In comparison, world cup reffing has been elite and not worth complaining about. Bogut should focus on being a better role model instead of outbursts like that.

Heartbreaking. But the refs were not the reason for the loss. 25% shooting from 3 and 20+ turnovers got us.

Calls go both ways it’s happens but sometimes refs got see what’s happening, go back and look at that call on Bogut, Gasol clearly pushes him, as Longley said Spain been kissed on the dick every time they play Australia.

I understand why people say Bogut is a sore loser but in the last Olympics the call on Mills at the end was rubbish and the one on Bogut last night was worse, if there was a foul there it should have gone to Bogut not Gasol. I’m not going to blame the refs but one bloke last night clearly was favouring Spain, got overruled by one of the other refs a few times. End game passion is high I understand where Bogut and Longley came from.

In saying the above at eleven up we had to put the foot on the throat and we didn’t, Spain good D and tiredness from the Aussies. Such is life.

Look at the last 2 plays for both teams in quarters 1-4 an first overtime- I think we were outscored 9-1.
Letting Llull get a shot away in the first quarter, when I think we had a foul to give was poor.
But putting either Ingles or Mills in a high on-ball screen at the end of quarters with no movement hasn't really worked all tournament. We generally end up with a turnover, or worse a turnover and a breakaway for the opposition. Without a superstar, athletic tall guard, these end of quarter plays don't work.

Better just to run one of the normal sets and get loads of player movement.

I lived through way too many Celtics losses in playoff games when Doc Rivers did this with Paul Pierce.

I'd say that execution at the end of most quarters was a problem- especially passing out of on-ball situations. I think we turned over at least two end of quarter plays during the game.
But lots of NBA teams have problems at the end of quarters as well.
I'd put it down to excessive micromanagement of the play and lack of player and ball movement.

In such an intense game, I think they did quite an even-handed job. Each team had dubious calls they could question.

I'm not totally sure we were out-coached; it was Spain’s experience under pressure which got them over the line as we became more and more desperate (& tired)

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Agree about the refs and losing with grace. In such an intense game, I think they did quite an even-handed job. Each team had dubious calls they could question.

I’m not totally sure we were out-coached; it was Spain’s experience under pressure which got them over the line as we became more and more desperate (& tired)

Maybe he meant how are they going to afford Mies Switzerland without being corrupt? :-p

I understand the frustration. But bad calls happen in sports.

Mills could've iced it with the FTs. But one didn't fall. Heartbreaking as Mills has carried us on his shoulders. But that's the feather that broke his back unfortunately.

He was referencing the fact the Fiba headquarters and Spain reside on the same continent in Europe, and that is why he has a view of perceived bias against Australia as Fiba would be happier for a European team to have success rather than Oceania.

No such thing as bad press. The guardian ran a live coverage of the game and the abc report on it at completion, so things look like they are improving.

I find that I'm often not on the same wavelength as Andrew Bogut, and this is no exception.

41 points, 23 rebounds and 4 blocks in today's game. Great effort !