Hoops

What are refs being taught?

Kick outside your cylinder and whether it's "natural" or not you are responsible for the contact assuming the defender has legal guarding position

Are you talking about his usual jump shot or just particular instances? He might exaggerate the kick out sometimes, possibly to draw contact for calls from refs, but then it might also be a natural move to counter-balance. Refs shouldn't be expected to make that judgement. From what I've seen, it is not always the same and depends on the situation. Sure, I wouldn't be surprised if Cotton knew how to use his kick-out get more calls from refs. A lot of the best players know how to get calls from refs.

My own jumper has a natural kick-out depending on the range, whether it is a set shot or slightly turnaround, etc. It's all about balance and power. There can be a legitimate reason to kick-out on a long range jump shot.

It is anything but natural. Do you defend Draymond Green and his antics too?

"Cotton is not a normal shooting action, he jumps up vertically and shoots then kicks his legs out after the shot"

I don't know about the rules regarding this, but it really should be legal to do this because it is actually a natural way to generate power on the jump shot, especially for smaller/weaker players shooting from long range. It's an alternative way to get power to the one-action shot. Shane Heal used to do this; the attention may have been on his 'hammer' overhead action, but he generated the power from his legs, naturally kicking his legs out. Heal had less vertical lift than Cotton, so Heal wouldn't have launched his legs as far forward for so long, making contact with defenders less likely.

If driving players can get calls when defenders encroach upon their landing space, why not also for jump shooters that gain power from kicking legs out? Bryce Cotton's jump shot appears completely natural to me as he gets a lot of vertical lift and kicks his legs out as a natural counter-balance starting from the release of his shot.

Thanks, #695

I think they're taught to ruin games going off of the latest debacle.

Cotton is not a normal shooting action, he jumps up vertically and shoots then kicks his legs out after the shot, he would never get that call in the nba.

You need to look at where the defensive player is standing before and after the shot.

You can complain about legs out but if the defense is behind or in the spot where the shooter took off from its a foul.

I don’t support either team, and I’ve been critical of one particular player in the team I do support for doing this.

I’m asking as a long-time watcher of all levels and teams, as well as a former ref and current coach, who gets annoyed by uncertain or inconsistent reffing allowing stuff that’s against the rules or spirit of the game I love.

Please... Accept the loss gracefully. Don't be that guy.

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