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Hoops Racism

Zodiac
Yesterday

Well, you'll take this the wrong way I'm sure, but can you name some white players as divisive as Ben Simmons, Liz Cambage or Adam Goodes? If you can't, you have no real way to say how I'd react if there were white players making as big- a- bell end of themselves as those guys.


Divisive? How are these players divisive? Shane Heal is a bigger tosser than all three of those people combined he's frittered away hundreds of thousands of dollars if not millions of other people's money on top of all the other things he's done and I don't remember you ever arking up about him.

But an Aboriginal dare say anything about race and you go ballistic. It doesn't matter if what they say are an example of racism or not the fact you go so crazy over it speaks volumes.




love this LOL, you obviously cant remember the threads lambasting Heal all over this forum and everywhere else, did anyone shout 'thats racist''...no they didn't because it was all about his behavior, but hell if anyone of colour behaves that way and they are given the same treatment , it HAS to be racists, couldn't possibly be because their behavior is appalling.
Same for Bogout, hes been blasted many time, Brendan Joyce, christ at one time hisd name was total mud here, and Lemanis, so its OK to dish out on anyone just so long as they are white, because any person of colour who has a bad attitude is justified ??????

Simmons is a prima donna and Cambage is his female equilvilant....may I remind everyone, that BOTH of these people also have a WHITE parent.

"But an Aboriginal dare say anything about race and you go ballistic. It doesn't matter if what they say are an example of racism or not the fact you go so crazy over it speaks volumes." - Zodiac

Sorry, Zodiac, this is another spurious correlation. The discussion on Heal was short and quick, not because he's white, but because there was a lack of contrasting opinions. Notice the threads that get the most discussion occur when there are multiple opinions. Also notice in the media in general the wide discussion generated by accusations of racism. It is mostly not a racists vs non-racists debate, although I'm sure there are some racists out there. Racism is treated with disdain in our culture by, it seems, the vast majority. A large amount of discussion comes from the grey area in what constitutes racism. A large amount comes from simply disagreeing with the interpretation of events, disagreeing what others' motives might be for their actions. That leaves a lot of room for discussion. Take this thread as an example. I actually don't recall people arguing *for* racism.



"Plus there favourite defence just like "Me" is to say "I'm not racist, I just hate black people because they deserve it." - anonotroll

This is when we need registration on this forum, so we immediately know who is a troll and/or already lost credibility, so we don't have to waste time reading their nonsense. At least Zodiac puts his name to his comments. I respect him/her holding a consistent opinion, but disagree with the interpretation, so ultimately believe Zodiac's points are most likely invalid. All the others (if there really is more than one) claiming racism have taken pot shots from their anonymous bunker(s), without having the guts to lay claim to a defined posting history. It's cowardly and/or demonstrates a lack of strength in their own stance, avoiding scrutiny.

"If the new coach were anyone other than Brett Brown people wouldn't have immediately jumped to Simmons and Bolden."

Sorry, but did you just see an obvious and undeniable link?

DATS WACIST

If the new coach were anyone other than Brett Brown people wouldn't have immediately jumped to Simmons and Bolden.

"If your attacks on Simmons were based in any way on his ability, that might escape notice, but they're not. You have attacked this kid from day one. With Bolden it has been more varies, but still the Vitriole is disproportionate."

Well there isn't much to debate on his ability. But he's been going around saying ridiculous shit and acting like a fuckwit, so there's my vitriol. I had not a single bad thing to say about him until he played his little hokey pokey with the Boomers team.

"Those agreeing & attacking Lemanis, those disagreeing and defending Lemanis, and the racists who immediately blamed the nearest Black scapegoat."

For what it is worth I never said Simmons was the reason and I never said Bolden was the reason. I have defended that Lemanis did a decent job with the team and people have reacted bizarrely to it.

"I should also point out, and its almost comical, that the OP didn't out anyone in particular. The racists have outed themselves with responses."

Yeah, because if you don't think something is racist, and if you say as much, you MUST be a racist. You people are brain dead.

"Divisive? How are these players divisive? Shane Heal is a bigger tosser than all three of those people combined he's frittered away hundreds of thousands of dollars if not millions of other people's money on top of all the other things he's done and I don't remember you ever arking up about him."

And how relevant is Shane Heal? Is he an active player? Is he in any way prominent? Is he making big claims that deserve debate or scorn? No. So shut the fuck up you dickhead.

Well, you'll take this the wrong way I'm sure, but can you name some white players as divisive as Ben Simmons, Liz Cambage or Adam Goodes? If you can't, you have no real way to say how I'd react if there were white players making as big- a- bell end of themselves as those guys.

"ME says he's not racist but when ever a black person steps out of line he goes off like a two bob watch. In the past he's been all over the Ben Simmons, Liz Cambage and Adam Goodes threads like a rash he's not racist though just black people need to know their place, to be seen and not heard."


Well, you'll take this the wrong way I'm sure, but can you name some white players as divisive as Ben Simmons, Liz Cambage or Adam Goodes? If you can't, you have no real way to say how I'd react if there were white players making as big- a- bell end of themselves as those guys.

And by the way, when talking basketball, generally the most notable players are going to be black. Most of the NBA is also black. So when a basketball player does something a bit obnoxious, black people are going to be overrepresented in that because they make up the most of the NBA, and the NBA is where primadonnas live.

Really you're just seeking to blame me for noticing that those particular black gentlemen are dickheads. I'm not going to sugarcoat that because they're black. And I go as hard after shit white players as well and anyone who actually knows me could attest to that. But it just so happens that Ben Simmons, Liz Cambage and Adam Goodes are half wits. I can rattle off a whole range of white half wits if it makes you feel more secure?

But anyway, you can call me racist. I'll sleep just fine if people who don't know me but see words on a screen have come to a completely wrong opinion of me. That's your problem, not mine.

Oh god. Isaac can this whole thread please be purged from the internet?

Were they also threads about people *claiming racism* when arguably there was none?

As perfectly illustrated by the OP, there are many instances of confirmation bias, selective memory, or spurious correlations. It's not uncommon to have an initial belief be consolidated by a screw up in your pattern recognition system.

(You can use a similar argument to help explain people's strong belief in god, so it's not like this is only specific to this kind of topic)

If there are other reasonable explanations that don't involve racism, why is it wrong to point them out? Unfortunately, we are getting to a stage among some of the ideological extremists where merely denying an alleged instance of racism, or suggesting it is unlikely, is deemed to exhibit racism itself. It's an absurd argument.

"She is a witch!"
"No, she is not."
"Only a witch would defend another witch. Burn her!"


"I can't be a witch; I like Pastor Eddy and his wife Aretha very much."
"Claiming to not be a witch because you love Pastor Tim or his wife Aretha, or some other token pious person who doesn't offend you, is also straight out of the witch handbook!"

ME says he's not racist but when ever a black person steps out of line he goes off like a two bob watch. In the past he's been all over the Ben Simmons, Liz Cambage and Adam Goodes threads like a rash he's not racist though just black people need to know their place, to be seen and not heard.

This reminds me of the time where in a Corey Webster thread I posted an image from the 80s sitcom Webster and was labelled a racist for doing so by a whole bunch of people. Even after others explained to them what it meant they still didn't get it. It must be far easier for most to use the word racist rather than do a simple web search on a pop culture reference they've failed to understand. Classic.

Curtley is the most racist person here.

If you hate a group of people based upon their race, you're racist.

Simple

Of course this forum is racist. It's initially subtle and hard to notice, but when you open your eyes to it, you realise it's right in front of your face, every time. This forum couldn't get any more white, in page background. All the important content is black, in text colour, doing all the unpaid hard work. The forum just expects the black text to vectorize itself, voluntarily. Then when you point this out, and reload the page, what happens? There it is, an all white page, white supremacy, again. Then if you want to post a message, you have to press (assault) an orange button, which is blatant gingerism if ever I've seen it.

Sorry but racism comes down to an uneven distribution of resources and power.

Only groups of people with inherent access to resources and power can be racist to those who have historically been denied access to resources and power and continue to feel the effects of this inequity.

There's sweeping statements and closed-mindedness coming the other way, but you can't call it racism as it is not embedded in societal hierarchy.

I guess I'm sort of racist because I don't like anybody

People forget to mention that dark people are more racist to white people than the other way around it's just you dont hear about because white people couldn't really care less. If someone called me white trash or whatever I'd think it's funny

Anyone who thinks there's subtle racism on this forum may have a point but try posting with a female name and check out the sexist crap thrown at you to disprove your opinions.

I feel like everyone has copped it on this forum, although it does ebb and flow.

For example, after the Philippines debacle Chris Goulding was lambasted as a flopping cry-baby. Some of the criticism was deserved, some not. Then came the WC, and after some very solid performances in the green and gold he was largely praised for his efforts.

Was it racist that he copped a pasting after some poor behaviour? Was it equally racist he got some plaudits after some very good games?

I think not.

The most protected person on this forum is Phil Smyth, remind me what colour he is again?

Is the person that started this thread for real?
Bogut is the most bagged player on here.
I think this poster is looking through rose coloured glasses

My skin is brown. My manner is tough. My life has been too rough.
I'm awfully bitter these days, because my parents were slaves.

Any chance we can just ban any Boomer-related discussion involving Lemanis, Simmons and Bolden? Easily some of the worst threads this site has seen.


best suggestion yet


its behaviour not skin colour that gets people off side

Now that Lemanis has been sacked the OP needed to find new material related to the Boomers. He went to the absolute bottom and it's working - it has already triggered ME to write yet another essay. Too easy. Keep replying and it will continue.

Any chance we can just ban any Boomer-related discussion involving Lemanis, Simmons and Bolden? Easily some of the worst threads this site has seen.

Don't mention his name 3 times

Marty Clarke, now that's a name I haven't heard for a while.

OP have you seen the abuse this forum gives :

- Cadee
- Gliddon
- Braun.
- Singler.
- Sobey
- Bairstow
- Goulding
- Teys.
- White.
- Scott Christopherson.
- Marty Clarke.
- Djeric.
- Kenney.
- Matt Flynn.
- Gleeson.
- Demopolous
- Gaze
- Brett Rainbow
???

If manu has obviously been racist, then that individual has to be dear with. Starting a topic stating everyone who dislikes a player and their antics is racist simply won’t cut it. Same goes for commentary, I find homicides commentary unbearable unprofessional and no longer needed for the league to grow. I don’t like Dwayne Russell either, so I guess I hate Black and white races?

Spot on OP. Then you have coward edgelords like Manu Feildel using the N word.

Any chance we can just ban any Boomer-related discussion involving Lemanis, Simmons and Bolden? Easily some of the worst threads this site has seen.

"You conveniently left out any mention of Patty Mills who is probably the most loved player on this forum."

He probably is actually. If you look at the guys who cop it the most, Teys gets a flogging and Spud gets a ribbing too. Bogut gets called a sook from time to time. When you think about, I think most Hoopsters hate everyone, equally.

"Poster doesn't seem to know what a rock spider is."

Aren't they found under rocks? In the ocean?

Delete this shit

Lol.

I mean sure you might get the odd racist or two on here, but overall i think you're overreacting a bit. All players have a lot of positives and negatives said about them, nothing to do with race. Plenty of white players have copped it on here in recent months.

"Obviously the racists will defend themselves, by pointing out that they aren't racist, they just don't like lazy spoiled whinging prim donas, who all just happen to be black."

Well uhh yeah pretty much. That's basically where a lot of the hate for Simmons and Bolden has come from the last couple of months with the WC. Nothing to do with their race but how they acted.

You conveniently left out any mention of Patty Mills who is probably the most loved player on this forum.