Hoops

Sixers v United Jan 11

LV you mean the last one under the basket when he reached back with his right arm, pinned Drmic and grab a handful of his shorts so he couldn’t jump? You mean that bogus one?

haha so true

Probably Adelaide's best defensive game of the season, in that they actually played a bit of defense for the first time.

Agreed- CG indeed a flopper but reading this thread, you'd think he'd done some quality acting in last night's game

He was actually dudded by the refs last night, his last 2 fouls were bogus but especially the last one right under the basket

It’s hilarious that Adelaide fans continue to criticise Goulding for flopping when they’ve got Teys. He didn’t hit the deck once last night so not sure where the flopping calls are coming from.

LV you’re a lot of huffing and puffing. The grave was dug long, long ago!

Griffin's dunk worth $2000.
( Thought he was gonna be game mvp)

This banter between Zodiac and LV is good fun.
Zodiac ahead at the minute.

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Well that lasted all of one sentence.]

You do realise blaming yourself and taking responsibility IS the opposite of making excuses and blaming external factors, yes?

It's all about form.

United's best Is better than anyone's- except Sydney and perhaps Perth. Given their good percentage, 3 wins from their last 6 should get them in. Of course, if they play like last night they'll win 0 from 6! But we all know that's unlikely.

Cairns also have good percentage. My tip is top 4 remains where it's been for the last few weeks. Hoping United get 3rd so they avoid Sydney.

What I'm doing is actually the opposite of making excuses!

I'm saying United's wounds last night appeared to be mostly self inflicted.

a team who hasn't been in the top 4 lately and likely won't finish there.

What I'm doing is actually the opposite of making excuses!

I'm saying United's wounds last night appeared to be mostly self inflicted.

If you shoot 39% and miss a lot of very gettable shots, then you probably deserve to lose.

You're just all getting your panties in a tiff cos you think I'm not crediting the 36ers enough- a team who hasn't been in the top 4 lately and likely won't finish there.

LV, Zodiac isn’t wrong, you’re useless at giving credit to opposition and you do have a track record of excuse after excuse. Those heavily tinted shades need to come off one day so you can see some light!

Anyone walking around thinking they’re a walking fact book like LV is bound to talk a lot of sh!t

Sure Melb missed some shots they might normally make, but the Sixers missed a few free throws including three in a row from Griffen and also missed some layups and butchered some second chances. They also missed some wide open 3's. The Sixers were much better over the game and did what was required when it was required.

Lovebroker- makes no attempt to challenge my points

Then says there's no reasoning with me

I love online forums! Good entertainment

[Trimble is in a funk he's been crap for MU's last 3-4 games now and Barlow's shot and has shown that all season]

Barlow is shooting 44% from 3 this season, 42% career

You acknowledge my main point but then accuse me of lacking humility....umm, ok?

Randle was absolutely brilliant, I've said that several times. But, almost every team has a brilliant star of his ilk.

Just not sure that level of performance will get 36ers into playoffs. If that view means I lack humility....ok then?

There is really no benefit in reasoning with LV.

Every Utd loss is blamed on refs or scheduling, while ignoring Utd get equal share of calls.

Every opposition win is invalidated.

One week It's United are the second best team behind Kings. Next week It's lower.

We can only hope she keeps up her medication.

It was an out of form team losing to a team who just did enough to win a game they should've.

I'm not sure how well Adelaide moved the ball- 15 assists off 35 field goals is a poor number. It was mostly individual brilliance from Randle (last quarter) that sealed the win, plus some solid play from DJ early and Griffin throughout.

There's turnovers and there's turnovers. There's missed shots and there's missed shots. Many of United's turnovers were just careless or absent minded. Adelaide can't take credit for those- nor can they take credit for Barlow missing shots he's been hitting most nights for 15 years, or Trimble missing absolutely everything.

Adelaide played some good D at times, forcing United into some tough shots. But that wasn't the main theme of the night for me. It was an out of form team losing to a team who just did enough to win a game they should've.

LV you must be a Fox News kind of man.

Gotta love someone who finishes a spiel with “those are the facts” as if they’re undeniably right and there’s no spin whatsoever.

Adelaide played a controlled game, shared the offence, led start to finish, plugged the holes down low and challenged out of form players to hit open shots. They brought in energy start to finish. When you do that, you frustrate the opposition, you cause them to overthink, you cause them to make mistakes, you cause them to act uncharacteristically, you cause them to miss gimmes.

Melbourne failed because Adelaide brought those factors to the game. Melbourne didn’t make turnovers against traffic cones.

My lord, if we blamed losses on the basis of turnovers, missed shots, lack of effort being a result of the team playing badly and not opposition being good, 36ers would be the ultimate “bad team” losing games themselves instead of opposition winning games. There is no other team in the competition which gets into a good position and so frequently let’s the opposition back into it, it’s about as regular a story line as it gets in the NBL. Most people say “well Cotton was never going to be held down the entire game” or “With Melbourne/Sydney you pick your poison someone’s bound to come to play”.

Adelaide had Randle, Johnson, Griffin playing well together, the reason Melbourne lost is because they clicked took control and didn’t let Melbourne have momentum. They knocked down their shots at important moments to stifle a run. That’s how you win.

Hawks did it against Adelaide, they always returned served when Adelaide tried to wrestle momentum. Did Adelaide play crap? Yes. Did the hawks move the ball well and hit the important shots that kept Adelaide out of it? Yes. Same thing here.

Automatically being combative when someone differs in opinion to you is ugly af

Man I'm tired of people being ugly to each other

Where are all the so called Sixers fans or haters who flock on here when they lose .
Yes MU with talent should play better but give full credit to Sixers who played a strong controlled game with every player doing their bit at times with stand out DJ ,Griffen, Drimic and more team focussed Randle .
After watching last 2 games looks like Joey spent time getting more intensity on defence,
Great game great atmosphere and the stadium move has worked and be interesting to see crowds when school holidays over.

Didn’t watch the game. But all the reports from Sixers fans at the game I saw were spot on with LVs. MU gifted the game to the Sixers who were just ok.

We shot 26% from 3 and 71% from the free throw line. We also had fewer assists than MU despite scoring 7 more times. That does not sound like a highly convincing or competent win to me.

LV you’re peddling “36ers didn’t play well, United just played badly”. I certainly didn’t get the vibe that the 36ers played badly even if United were careless/missed shots they should have gotten.

Adelaide played well from start to finish really, DJ and Randle did the right things at the right times and Griffin is making me wonder whether there’s a way to keep him next year and solve his defensive liability somehow on the basis of his offensive game - is there any big man in the league who drives and finishes at the basket as easily as he does?

As I’ve said before: in the NBL if you miss shots, if you don’t bring the energy, if you don’t take care of the ball you will get punished and lose even if it’s 1st v 9th.

Even top Sydney and ever consistent Perth have been burned repeatedly this season by it.

This idea of “36ers should have won by over 20 so they sucked” is total crap.

Sorry MD but your a butthurt winner.
You’re going on like Adelaide has Sydney’s record and United have Illawarra’s.

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[United are cooked. ]

They were terrible tonight, so bad that any playoff team should've beaten them by 20.

Adelaide didn't.


[Adelaide are better than your overpaid United]

Umm, nah. United smashed Adelaide twice this season.

Trimble and Barlow combined for 1-12 from 3, and most of them were wide open.

That won't happen again this season. Consider yourself lucky that this Rare event occurred against your team!

Enjoy tonight while it lasts! Randle's performance was one to remember.

Learn to read, This ain't whinin. I rarely watch a full game on normal speed so when I do, is worth pointing out the shit that could be improved for the betterment of the game of basketball

United sucked more balls than yo mama tonight, that's for sure. Which is to say, lots.

Problem is, Adelaide do suck. But the confusion is, they have flash in the pan moments of great play.

The more of these wins they get, the more I almost would be demanding a please explain ok why they can’t beat teams like the hawks and the breakers at home. Both at the time either undermanned or long travel legs.

Based on what I’ve seen this season, at their best they would win a playoff game, at their worst, they won’t be in the 4.

There was another too. Pledger I think

The McCarron reporting was some of the finest work you'll ever see on hoops.com.au

My talents are wasted on some mugs around here, clearly

Tonight, check out the loose ball rebounding fouls on Kidd, Goulding, and Griffin too

I understand the rationale behind making sure shooter is never disadvantaged in the slightest. So that crackdown results in the type of call we saw on Acuil When Griffin missed the 3 free throws

But why stop guys from having a crack at a rebound? Serves no purpose whatsoever. Pointless and stupid.

Don't wanna flog a dead horse here but damn

[How's dem 36ers? Game of the season, inspired, practically a full four quarter effort]

Wow, it must've been a terrible season

Surely too many unforced errors by UTD to be super excited by the 36ers level of play?

36ers didn't look like a playoff team to me.

Wagstaff may be in all flop 5 but Goulding is the MVP of flopping.
Will United hold onto top 4 spot with Adelaide right up their arse on the ladder.

A couple of Academy Award performances to get fouls from CG43. Imagine going to a basketball game to watch a soccer player.

Uninspiring jungle ball.

You can't make excuses for this incompetence

One underwhelming win from 4 games

Two overrated, defensively poor, mentally fragile youngsters in Long and Trimble. Bigger in name than game.

Long was OK and attacked the glass, but his defense on that Griffin dunk play was another example of his low IQ on the defensive end

Trimble is a confidence player and very talented but lacks toughness

Its all very disappointing

Season not over but..... Yeah. Pretty flat after an abysmal performance.

Randle was sublime and Griffin is exciting, but otherwise 36ers were hardly awesome, yet United looked 2nd rate in comparison. It felt like the wooden spoon match for much of the game. Uninspiring jungle ball.

LV please admit that Melbourne suck :)

I really hope George applies for the next vacant head coaching position, his knowledge seems limitless and makes current coaches look like fools. Or at least become a consultant,coaches will flock to his doors to find out how teams work.
Armchair Idiot!!!

Barlow is either carrying injuries or age has caught up, he’s moving like an old man. Goulding is a great player and the last few seasons a better defender, but with most of the Melbourne squad now poor defensively he’s gone back to his old ways. Long is having a go at least though he’s not the sharpest tool in the shed. Melbourne will probably still make finals on talent alone but need a refresh at seasons end.

Don't wanna flog a dead horse here but damn, NBL is frustrating to watch sometimes this season

How many pointless rebounding fouls. How many fouls for inadvertently potentially scratching someone with a fingernail. How many fouls that just weren't there.

So teys rly did rip Trimble to shreds

United has been a rabble lately

A talented rabble, but a rabble nonetheless

That was United's worst game of the year. Deserved to lose by 34, not 14. CG's brilliant shooting kept the score competitive for longer than it should've been

Barlow had a shocker. Never seen him get so many open looks and miss so many

What the hell is going on with Trimble? Can't hit wide open three, can't hit a layup

It was amazing the halftime lead was 5. 13 turnovers in a half and most of them were clumsy and ugly, not the type of aggressive turnovers that are a little more acceptable

Having barely watched NBL this season, I thought Melbourne looked pretty average. Wouldn't have guessed they were previously trouble for the 36ers. Adelaide were scrappy at times, but Drmic/Griffin/Randle kept their energy levels up to see it through.

If they can manage Cairns a couple of times, Adelaide have a reasonable run home. All teams they need to be able to beat if they fancy being a play-off team.

Re Melo, when you’ve got the shooting yips, as he does at the moment there’s a few things you need to do: 1) as best possible dgaf; 2) focus on other parts of your game: good defence, good ball movement, energy; 3) Try to get some cheapie baskets Gaze style as best you can

Confidence is everything!

George is one devastated person

I think the top 4 is set as is, Cairns and Melbourne won’t be dropped from playoffs spots.

There is so much giant killing in the NBL it’s absurd. If you’re a betting person, my lord does the NBL provide good value and opportunities to make some serious $$$.

Interesting hearing Gaze day 36ers are resourced and vying with NBL clubs for an NBA Aussie free agent!

Big game from Melo.

There is literally no way to gauge the 36ers. They are as hot and cold as my ex! No way I thought they’d win tonight, yest I could’ve sworn till blue in the face they’d beat the hawks and the breakers at home.

The shock losses will end up costing them in such a close comp, but credit on a win over United.

Adelaide is all about Randle. Everyone knows it yet opposition coaches & players can’t work it out.
Amateur hour in the NBL

As a 36ers fan, these refs are reallllly helping us win the game!

Has there been any investigations into the NBL umpires betting on games this year?