Hoops

Bullets v Taipans

You can’t go head to head unless the draw is even, all sides play each other twice at home and away, then head to head would work. I don’t mind it the way it is.

Because in winning the same amount of games, they also won by bigger margins on average across all of those games. If you take the entire season to rank teams on wins, it makes sense to then rank them on how much they won by.

That's right nystro. Load of crap.

Stealing alcohol in Perth is a load of crap.
They were given it.

Cairns have no form heading into the finals and will get bundled out by Perth and then other teams will steal all their imports.

Injuries are not the Breakers' fault.

But Rice is, stealing alcohol from Perth is. The owner mouthing off at the league management in full view of the cameras is.

Kings had Lisch, Moller out major part of the season, plus Bogut, Lozarda for parts and got first.

Not sure can apply what ifs to that extent for Breakers. They were flat out imploding for a while there. It’s not even “wish they didn’t play lazy that one much” or “wish they had finished off that one match” it’s more “wish we had hopson earlier and didn’t crash and burn as an organisation before making a legitimate run”

143 agree. Mostly. Think some changes are necessary.

Those will be talked about no doubt

Conspiracy theorists on here also still believe in Santa Claus, NZ unlucky but in the end you make your own luck, starting last night when they could not smash a Mitch Creek less SEM.

"Jordan Ngati should have shot the ball against Perth with 3 seconds to go and no one on him. Or pass the ball to ashley under hoop. But didn't even look at the hoop."

You can go back and literally look at hundreds of cases in hindsight which would have changed things, but that goes both ways. If Melbourne didn't take their foot off the NZ throat in Glen Rice's first game and let them come back from a huge deficit, then they would not have been in the position they were in. If Brisbane did not shyt the bed last weekend against NZ, then NZ would not have been in the position they were in. Plenty of examples for all teams. That is, except Illawarra, SEM and Adelaide, who have been a step below.

Jordan Ngati should have shot the ball against Perth with 3 seconds to go and no one on him. Or pass the ball to ashley under hoop. But didn't even look at the hoop.

Poor Djeric, -39 for the game. Strange game but as noted above, Brisbane threw season away last weekend, today’s win will mean nothing when Melbourne smoke SEM tomorrow.

Melbourne vs Phoenix should have some heat. Little bro to try k ock en out of finals.

That missed lay up on the buzzer is going to haunt brisbane. If he made that brisbane percentage would be 102.34. If united win tomorrow by 1 point brisbane's percentage would be .1 better than united but as it stands even a one point win by united will get them in.

BNE 101.96% +50
NZB 101.86% +46

Gliddon doesn't hold onto it. Risky but ends up working out.

Bullets threw season away last weekend.

How fitting, Brisbane go up on a car crash play by Cadee

Crazy how much contact they let go on one end then call an offensive foul, then within seconds the whistle blows and free throws on the other.

Lol, bullets throwing season away in the last minutes.

Self respect, pride and some form heading into the playoffs are 3 reasons I can think of.

They look like a joke.
They’re making the Hawks look good and Brisbane look like a well oiled machine.

Cairns are garbage this round.

Oh and Cam Oliver just murdered Magnay's NBA prospects.

Perth to win it again, sigh.

Kenny playing like his brain has turned to mush by the pressure, and he should be kept away from the court for the rest of the game.

Brisbane finally looking they are taking this seriously, and Cairns just aren’t coping.

Brisbane’s arrogance, esp from Gliddon, makes me hope that Cairns comes back to win it.

Refs not even attempting to protect the better players.

Neither of these teams is going to make the GF. Perth to win it again, sigh.

But the good news is .... no Dickicide so I can listen to the game!!!!

need to win by like 30 or 35, can’t remember.

Nz are plus 46.
Melbourne plus 50 something.

Cairns rolled over against Melbourne Kelly just running old United sets against them and now they're clearly rolling over against Brisbane.

Very risky strategy this going into the playoffs as us 36ers fans can remember in 2017, very risky.

Cairns are getting swept if they turn up playing like this come finals

Cairns mucked around last game. Teaches bad habits.
This is what you get

White wasn’t good enough for Illawarra yet Joey brought him to Adelaide. No one really knows why Taylor got cut before season started but Weaver has made both him and Bruce look like starting five or minimum of top seven type players. Talk of Joey development is way over the top, Drimic, McVeigh were talked up big time but improvements has been minimal at best.

If Magnay was in Adelaide it would be "Joey made him", but because he is in Brisbane he "emerged", like he was a gift for Lamanis?

^ above has a point. Making the playoffs 50% of the time in the last two is MUCH better than 0% in the last two.

Joey had a similar rate towards the end.

Will Joey go out with a bang? He loves going head to head with Gleeson and they both seem to up the ref riding when they go at it. Could be an interesting night for the men in green.

This will be the 3rd season out of four that Lemanis has missed the playoffs at the Bullets. 75% failure rate a fair effort that and his buddy Clarke gave him a 3 year deal on the way out before the season too.

Bullets to win by 110 on the back of JC5 who should be named MVP

Euroleague's official rankings for national domestic leagues.

Euroleague rankings that only included game results:

1958 to 2000-01

1. Italian League
2. Spanish league
3. Greek League
4. French League
5. Israeli league
6. Croatian League
7. Russian League
8. Turkish league
9. German League
10. Belgian League
11. Serbian League
12. Czech League
13. Bulgarian League
14. Slovenian League
15. Dutch League
16. Polish League
17. Lithuanian League
18. Hungarian League
19. Romanian League
20. Finnish League

2000-01 to 2006-07 ranking (7 year ranking) (did not include Adriatic League)

1. Spanish League
2. Italian League
3. Greek League
4. Russian League
5. Turkish League
6. Israeli League
7. Slovenian League
8. French League
9. Lithuanian League
10. Croatian League
11. German League
12. Polish League
13. Serbian League
14. Belgian League
15. Montenegrin League
16. Swiss League
17. British League
18. Swedish League
19. Portuguese League

The Euroleague's new form of official rankings.

Based on 70% of the results of games and 30% on TV ratings, arena sizes, and attendance figures.

2007-08 to 2008-09 ranking (2 year ranking)

1. Spanish League
2. Italian League
3. Greek League
4. Russian League
5. French League
6. Turkish League
7. Lithuanian League
8. Adriatic League
9. German League
10. Polish League
11. Belgian League
12. Latvian League
13. Ukrainian League
14. Israeli League
15. Czech League
16. Dutch League

2009-10 to 2011-12 ranking (3 year ranking) (United League not included)

1. Spanish League
2. Russian League
3. Greek League
4. Italian league
5. Turkish League
6. French League
7. German League
8. Lithuanian League
9. Adriatic League
10. Polish League
11. Belgian League
12. Czech League
13. Ukrainian League
14. Israeli League
15. Bulgarian League
16. Dutch League
17. Latvian League

Game results rankings only:

2011-12 season (1 year ranking) (does not include United League:

1. Spanish League
2. Greek League
3. Adriatic League
4. Russian League
5. Italian league
6. Turkish League
7. German League
8. French League
9. Israeli League
10. Lithuanian League
11. Polish League
12. Czech League
13. Ukrainian League
14. Belgian League
15. Latvian League
16. Dutch League
17. Bulgarian League

2012-13 season (1 year ranking) (does not include United League:

(so far)

1. Spanish League
2. Russian League
3. Greek League
4. Adriatic League
5. Turkish League
6. Italian League
7. German League
8. Lithuanian League
9. French League
10. Israeli League
11. Ukrainian League
12. Czech League
13. Polish League
14. Latvian League
15. Belgian League
16. Dutch League
17. Bulgarian League


Obviously, based on this, the premiere European national domestic leagues are Spain, Greece, Russia, and Italy. And clearly, the two that stand out the most, by being consistently at the top 2-3, are Spain and Greece. With Italy dropping a bit in recent years, and Russia coming on in recent years.

But Spain and Greece are always in the top 2-3.

So that should settle that debate that rages here in this forum quite a bit.