Hoops

WA SBL - March 2020

new thread for April and the COVID19 shutdown period

https://www.hoops.com.au/forum/47148-wa-sbl-april-2020-2B-covid-shutdown/?a=104

SBL Virtual league website is up and running! Suppose it gives those missing the action cant live through there imaginations over these next 3 months. Great work by all involved!

Wolves over Senators in GF with the Giants being a surprise team!

08 tigers beat a depleted hawks team in the quarter finals missing Crawford and Sonderleiter. JG's Hawks should have won that year

08 Giants embarrassing Willo? Willo were the 8th seed that season. Giants were supposed to win.

@JR "John Gardiner's *FOUR* peat hawks team of the early 2000’s" 2001, 02, 03, 04

Lako's Redbacks team when they had the G_league guy Putney and Ray Turner, as well as Vigor and Nelson and they couldn't make the top 8 - that was my all time fav.

He was keeping in shape for NZBL were he is under contract. It happened before the restrictions had come in place. Nothing to see here. Just bad luck. Tough kid He will bounce back.

Not pointing fingers, asking the question.

Grida with ACL, was his team training after the suspension shutdown? Disgraceful if so. Any other clubs doing this sort of stuff?

What?

Virtual SBL

www.sblonline.net/vsbl

Coming soon!

It's been said above the only restricted players that will be allowed to play will be those who signed before this all happened, so that won't be an issue.

if no imports are allowed it would be fair to just say no paid players allowed.

One thing is for certain, there is a real likelihood that some of these clubs won't come out the other side of this situation.

Delightful, another poster with no reading comprehension.

So if the league goes ahead, it should only be with no players?

Why do you assume he's getting paid now any more than Redhage, or any other player?

But if Isenbarger lives here, nobody had to pay to keep him around.

But the proposed ruling isn't based on who or who isn't earning 15k, it's based on citizenship, which is pretty arbitrary at the end of the day.

Anyone whose primary residence is in Australia and who has Australian family should be allowed to play.

Kobe just continuing to show why they are one of the most disliked people on this forum - just because it is your opinion, doesn't make it correct mate.

Unless he is an Australian Citizen, he is restricted - It's really not that hard to comprehend.

Koberulz the no import restriction is 100% happening. Teams already working on getting them home ASAP.

Koberulz the no import restriction is 100% happening. Teams already working on getting them home ASAP.
Also no restricted players unless Aussie and already signed to a contract. .

None of the rules are official, and we have no idea what shape the league might take if it does get off the ground, so nitpicking over the detail of a rule as though it's been officially put forward is silly.

All we have is "it will apparently not include imports", which is clearly second- or third-hand information of a proposed rule, which may well take the form of "no flying players in from overseas", or have a specific carve-out for people with Australian family, or something of that nature.

If they go with a blanket "no imports", you're right, Isenbarger shouldn't play. But it would be perfectly acceptable to me if the rule was structured such that he could.

The no-import rule is to make it fair for all clubs. The second you allow an import to play 'in the spirit of the game', you are asking for problems.

If you are an import you can't play >>>>> it's clear-cut and can't be misinterpreted.

I think playing Isenbarger would be more in keeping with the spirit of such a restriction than keeping him out.

Just because you get married to an Aussie doesn't mean you automatically become a permanent resident or citizen. Isenberger is still regarded as a 'restricted' player in our league.

https://basketballwa.asn.au/blog/2020/03/17/basketball-update-basketball-suspended-in-wa/

All (WABL, domestic) suspended until at least 27/4 now as at 3.00pm WST

Directive from BWA to all associations.

If the season continues without imports to add to the list above Lakeside would still have Isenbarger now that he is married and lives here.

WABL/domestic as far as I can tell:


NO, IT'S FINE, EVERYONE SHOULD HANG OUT MORE, BRING YOUR FRIENDS:
Lakeside

BUSINESS AS USUAL:
Mandurah, Willetton

RESTRITCTED DOMESTIC ATTENDANCE, NO INFO ON WABL:
Hills, Kalamunda

DOMESTIC AS NORMAL, WABL TRAINING 1v0 ONLY:
Cockburn

TODAY IS CANCELED, WE'LL LET YOU KNOW ABOUT TOMORROW LATER:
Joondalup

EVERYTHING IS OFF, AT LEAST FOR NOW:
Perry Lakes, Perth

STOP BANGING ON THE DOOR I'M TRYING TO TAKE A NAP IN HERE:
East Perth, Rockingham, South West, Warwick

So who wins a non-import shortened season?

1. FLAMES
Hire, Durnin, Beard, Hussey, Godfrey

2. SENATORS
Davis, Literick, Ellis, Swaka Lo Buluk, Wroe

3. HAWKS
Redhage, Purser, Smith, Cassir, Clarke

4. WOLVES
Huntington, Vaiangina, Salinas, Jobling, Ironmonger

5. LIGHTNING
Prue, Vigor, Whately, Mackenzie, Lee

6. COUGARS
Holmes, Field, Travers, Bell, Chan

7. EASTERN SUNS
Blanchett, Timms, Viskovich, Aylett, Dinardo

8. GIANTS
Garang, Malek, Reid, Tipene, Ballantyne

9. BUCCANEERS
Te Puni, Inger, Ralph, Muo, Hunt

10. REDBACKS
Carlwell, Gattorna, Coppin, Jackson, Wagner

11. TIGERS
Thomas, Elder, Scott, Cummings, Black

12. EAGLES
Donlagic, Reath, Seery, Maharaj, Murphy

13. MAGIC
Smith, Kearing, Parker, Honey, Grace

14. SLAMMERS
M.Keller, J.Keller, Goff, England, Richardson

it would be a bleak affair if pmbl is cancelled, stripped right down to the bone

League reportedly has a meeting with club contacts on Monday. Hopefully they figure out a solution whereby we play with less than 500 at each game. Sucks for the clubs who draw larger crowds but for the likes of Hawks, Eagles etc it will be business as usual. If the clubs and league can not come to an agreement, make no mistake about it - it will be a drastically different league in 2021 when we have zero country teams due to no finances and maybe even the loss of one or two metro clubs at sbl level.

Playing games with no crowds is much easier for sports that get TV and sponsorship money. If you lose the gates in SBL, and with WABL unlikely to go ahead, where does the money come from?

Best case we've kept it contained in WA and things can return to relatively normal in a few weeks, but the national leagues continuing on and other interstate travel makes that much less likely.

^ re arm chair experts ... that is precisely my point. BA, BWA, the SBL are not experts. Surely you just take the directive of the Australian Government and its department of health on this? To my knowledge, playing games with limited or no crowds would not offend this?

Hypothetical for all of us so called experts on here. Let's say this thing continues as is for six weeks with no end in sight, a couple of questions:

When do clubs seriously consider sending imports home? Hard to justify keeping them here for no games

When do BWA make the hard call to abandon the season?

What is the basis for canceling these games? The Aus Government directive is to avoid mass gatherings of over 500 people. Seems pretty clear and sensible. It would be easy to limit an SBL crowd to below this? This is not the NBA we are talking about.

They are not shutting schools, shopping centres etc which would all have 5x the amount of people daily?

Will the cougars game tomorrow go ahead. Anyone going to venue to watch.

Will Travers be playing

Wolves' crowds increased with the new stadium.

the problem with grading is you have 1000s of people around at the same time, with multiple games. domestic games are one-and-done, so unlikely to be 500+ people at the venue at the same time due to one timeslot/game

An SBL game with 500-600 people there will be easier to manage as far as keeping numbers below 500, than a tournament or grading with 1000's.

There are fewer people at any given game, but the total number of people in the venue would be vastly larger. From memory BWA said 3000 people were expected to be there.

Local comps are still going on this weekend but they will be aware of the groups of people who gather at these locations ex: HBF Areana with u16's

How many usually show up at an SBL game?

Does the 500 people gathering together effect the SBL ? Surely it has to....

^^^^

Incorrect.

If the league joins NBL1 all those courtside sponsor boxes will bring them a lot less anyway. All signage space around court up to 1.2m high will be owned by the NBL1. That’s the reason a few of those clubs mentioned held up joining this season.

That's fine for your poorer clubs with low attendance and minimal corporate sponsorship but for your Joondalup, Geraldton, Goldfields and Rockinghams of the league who make considerable bank from their Corp boxes, that is simply not a sustainable solution.

Play with no FANS... wouldn't be much of a problem!!

So how long until the sbl follows the nba lead and suspends the season?? It has to be considered an option at this point surely

They should also have Travers as I can't see him traveling away with the Wildcats.