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NBL releases statement to address Sydney accusations

Well technically Sydney didn't deliver games 4 and 5, so maybe take your frustrations up with them.

Hahaha lovebroker haha

But the point is valid to when u were promised something and they didn't deliver?

Remind u of any game??

Yes I want to sue the league.

I paid 'good money' for my SBS steaming subscription and I was promised 5 games.

No, Sydney had nothing to gain. Poor grammar on my part.

Perth had nothing to gain?? Omg wow!

Nbl breached contract by not delivering on 5 game series, could of postponed it but have chosen to award title, afl didnt award championship.

The marsh/Sheffield is different as didnt make finals and cricket has clauses in it to award top of the ladder whereabouts nbl doesn't.

The reason they wont go ahead with the action is the kings could be waiting
Years for it to go thru due to the current climate, is it worth all those resources/time to get ur name on a trophy??

For some stupid reason the NBL and people here have some deadline to have the series completed by an unreasonable date but for what reason i will never know

Also if it's such a clear breach of contract, why do you believe it won't go far? I'm keen for details since you make it sound cut and dry from a legal perspective.

"NBL punished the kings for putting safety first, screw who was leading the series etc."

How? Perth were leading the series and have a logical claim to the title. Sydney have none.

Awarding Perth the title isn't a punishment for Sydney since they had nothing to gain from either of the two appropriate decisions.

Struth the insult game of people in this forum is as weak as the NBL leadership.

NBL punished the kings for putting safety first, screw who was leading the series etc.

Now u going to award port Adelaide the afl premiership now cause they on top of the ladder atm??

Would love to see the legal fallout from this as its a clear breach of contract by the NBL but it wont get that far.

Ah well off to next season, let them insults fly!

I don't recall the Kings publicly protesting double header weekends, which generally have a turnover of two days...

Why were the kings so worried about playing 3 days after Sunday game. Player welfare and tiredness, no time to recover !!!
Lol
What a joke

If the Kings wanted certainty they could've just agreed to Best of 3 when they were offered it

"What is *most* likely is that there was just a lack of clarity."

Did the Kings didn't bother consulting the rules? It's not like the NBL needs to constantly remind teams during every game what the result would if it were called off due to a leaking roof.

Common sense might also help explain what result might be applied if the series was suddenly called off.

Greggo, of course the Kings and their fans should feel frustrated. That's not the point.

1. Did the NBL communicate with the relevant parties during this ordeal?
2. Did the NBL consequently make decisions in a transparent and timely manner?
3. Did the NBL make the correct decision regarding a winner, or lackthereof?

Judging from the three accounts of recent events, I believe they have largely succeeded on all three counts. Could they have done better? Of course, but this is new territory for everyone involved.

I also trust Smith and Bogut's accounts the least. They appear to be acting on emotion and putting forth dubious arguments and/or accusations which the Wildcats and NBL have rejected.

To your last point: if Sydney were 2-1 up then they would hold the title with a fat asterisk next to it; just like the Wildcats currently do.

I was going for Sydney in the series lol

Agreed

"Are you guys really that smug and dumb?

Bogut's point is it shouldn't be left for the two teams (and players) competing for the championship to make the decisions, and the league needed to step in and show leadership."

The NBL did make a decision, and that was that the series was to continue and that the Kings withdrew. That's clear from their statement where they specifically mention the Kings decided not to play.

It's just that the Kings didn't like the decision, so they're complaining about the "process". It's the result they didn't like.

Sydney outcome was decided on the court. Had they been up 2-1 they would have been champions. Ultimately in this debate you gotta win on the court.

#165
Get out while you’re well behind.

The league offered both clubs options but the kings wanted the GF series to stay exactly the same. They then decided to not play on. You don’t have to be that smart to work it out.

The league made recommendations, kings rule them out.

I’m an anyone but Perth supporter.

"I think *everyone* could see that there was a 90% chance it was going to end after the weekend."

So then why does the NBL need to hold the Kings' hand? It's not really about "clarity" if it was (apparently) so obvious how the situation was going to unfold.

Hindsight is 20/20.

Messy lol the corona crisis is messy in general.

Things escalated significantly over the course of a week over days over hours.

Sydney are just shitty because they didn’t want Perth to be awarded the trophy. Perth deserved it, in the circumstances Sydney should have had a bit of grace about it instead of acting entitled

JL was wrong.
LK also wrong.
NBL got it wrong.
NBL's legal counsel - wrong!
FIBA wrong.

Paul Smith, Bogut and Shayno are right.

Is that what Bogut's complaint was, because I was struggling to put my finger on it. He said the league office should've been pro active in coming up with options. But when they did come up with the options the Kings preferred the status quo.

Best of 3 was discussed prior to game 2 but the Kings declined

The world has been about winning only for years, sport, politics, business, etc, as the saying goes. Winners are grinners and losers can please themselves.
If Sydney are leading the way to a new compassionate society I’m happy, let’s see lots more off it.

Shayno...you need to see a specialist if that is how you interpret things in life.

Nbl did big hoo ha about perth are champions where like 99% of the population didn't care.

Syd right to pull out, perth wanted championship, would of played in wuhan just for their name to b on the trophy.

Then u see the pics about syd showing compassion to their players and staff where u see perth going wild over a trophy.

It shows u what some people are about, syd about isolation where perth and the nbl about getting their hands on as much tp pasta and hand sanitizer as they can get.

Its a poor look

Bogut is just a disgruntled employee who didn't like the way management did things.

Could managment done better? Yes. But it's management, and they can do what they want.

Imagine if we all got to hold press conferences when we didn't like thew way our company did something.

either the NBL didnt have any contingencies

Can we give runners up accolades to Cairns instead?

Sydney lost twice at home. Look at that first.. had 3games and won 1. Shit played all 5 sorry 4 be done 3 - 1. Losers.
You f... up by not winning on home deck.. you gave Perth suckers or fuck,,,s as nice and they pulled down your pants...win one lose some 2. You are out.

Nbl is in good hands, and I’m an anyone but Perth supporter.

Well done NBL.

Very professional and firm response.

"There is always a need to balance business decisions and transparency to the public, but it continues to be a question, that's been highlighted again in this latest series of events. There’s a need for greater transparency on impactful decisions, especially when it relates to outcomes from behind-the-scenes discussions, that will drive better accountability and trust from all parties."

NBL Grand Final fallout: On transparency, Rule 34 and why speed was critical, especially with coronavirus threat

It appears almost nothing could've been done to avoid the series finishing prematurely.

What if LK used a private jet and both teams played back to back in Adelaide over two days... Import players wanted out in case they were gonna be stuck here for months, it wasn't purely a safety decision. It seems all unavoidable.

Sydney quit, then tried to control the narrative and take the moral high ground.

Now they are backtracking, because they couldn't get the moral high ground and the narrative was already written.

Who's your team and what should their (realistic) lineup be next year?