Hoops

Euro Aussies back in NBL.

This all goes back to one comment which is so vaguely defined it's like starting a sporting competition without rules.

Respondent tees off with golf shot. Commenter takes netball stance. Respondent returns with lacrosse stick. Commenter dons fencing mask. Respondent places gridiron for kick-off. Commenter Fosbury Flops. Respondent starts sprinting periphery. Commenter aims at nearby dartboard.

I think I know who wins though.

Probably, I was always under the impression Wilson was an LK-era deal until Loeliger mentioned that

Koberulz, Jeremy Loeliger in an interview said that when they arrived there were no sponsors except a ball deal, I assumed that was Wilson

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Adelaide don’t have financial issues, Illawarra had investment and the appears to be plenty wanting to invest, Townsville was shed, Brisbane reintroduced with new ownership, Melbourne additional investment, NZ new owners, Sydney new owners.

We went from 3-4 teams with adequate investment to 7-8 teams with adequate investment.

Koberulz, Jeremy Loeliger in an interview said that when they arrived there were no sponsors except a ball deal, I assumed that was Wilson

LK entered into a situation where:
- only NBL sponsor was a ball deal with Wilson and no other sponsors

36ers management or New York Knicks management?

“ Basically going back to what the NBL was before LK got involved, when it was on free to air , attracted NBA level imports and recruited young aussie talent to stay in Australia.”

Be careful when using drugs!

LK entered into a situation where:
- only NBL sponsor was a ball deal with Wilson and no other sponsors
- no TV deal, and Channel Ten had been trying to bail from the NBL for years prior
- no Brisbane
- a struggling Townsville, Illawarra, Adelaide financially

LK arrived to a completely mismanaged shit show.

Fast forward: revenue has been higher than ever before, league naming rights sponsor, new investment in almost all teams, broadcast of every game on several mediums

yes
"Ozhoops was a great place"
Agree

some numbnuts like curious and other "neverweres" really, really destroyed it. Got impossible to actually have intelligent discussions.
At least here its easier to scroll down a few posts and pick up with the adults again

Imagine how much angrier Old Brucey is going to get when his job application for team manager of the new TAS team is rejected. The guy clings onto memories of his past NBL position more than ClintDogg.

Except for my brother curious as nobody liked him. Still is bitter to this day, how sad.

I find that difficult to believe given how dumb you clearly were before I posted anything.

Why does the brand matter? You can't pay bills with a logo.

They might have got approval but that's not anywhere near the same thing and again, without knowing what it's worth why do we care?

That, and some suggestion of a causal link between LK and a change of sponsors, because at best we have correlation over a tiny sample size.

A McDonald's franchise isn't worth anywhere near as much as actual McDonald's, and shouldn't be counted as such. Again, equivocating.

Not sure I'd go head to head too long fighting about sponsors unless the value of the sponsorships were available too.

Western Australian Government
KIA
Dodo
McDonalds
Skytrans
Toyota
Burger King
Breakaway

1)Yes that's what I am saying because that's a fact

McDonalds, KIA, Coca Cola, Swan , National Foods, XXXX, Virgin, state government programs all Tier 1 NRS or headline sponsors of teams

You care because you are arguing.

yep , so despite the salary cap exploding we still have talent returning from overseas.

last time I communicated with Jack he was underwriting the team.

^^^
Oh boy.

I know the TV rating because I follow the data and have a partner in media

Mighty Might isn't Tier 1 - Tier 1 is blue chip ASX or equivalent

You see my point - nothing has changed

I won't enter into a pissing contest about who was better , my point is the players that had played in the NBA played in the NBL then.

If you think the players today are steps above those from that period Casper Ware's GF shooting says hello.

Cairns and Perth are no longer profitable

Yes A1 sponsors, who can ever forget that magnificent sponsor firepower. If it was so great why did so many clubs not stay afloat.

Highest TV rating for NBL ever came form that period.

Teams had Tier 1 sponsors unlike today. Kings played in a GF with Bogut and could get a front of singlet sponsor.

Players still came back from college and Europe to play.

NBA resume imports still played in the NBL

And teams weren't losing millions of dollars a year following a pump and dump show.

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You can’t be serious, lmao.

If serious my budgie has better memory than you, it was a shit show.

If the hard cap was $700k,
That's say 10 players at $55k each with $150k leftover for a marquee man... or similar pay break down. Ouch!

Kay is no fool, so if things in Europe are the same as in Australia and his wages get cut 50% to $200g and he can probably get triple that in Europe he's not playing in Australia.

Kay is no fool, so if things in Europe are the same as in Australia and his wages get cut 50% to $200g and he can probably get triple that in Europe he’s not playing in Australia. As stated it’s still an unknown but it’s an unknown every where. McCarron and others would look at there options.

Time will tell but the nbl had better be careful with the cuts. It might bite them on the arse after all the good work.

And none of them are relevant to the idea of current NBL players leaving for Europe, which was the actual point I was contesting.

"Tell us KR where are these Aussie players from EU now living? You reeally have had a bad day Mattic"

Landale is in Aus

Broekhoff has an offer from a Greek Euroleague team but is still in the states with his wife and newborn

Motum posted an IG and tagged valenica so i believe he is still there

Mangok Mathiang is in Australia

Wow Koberulz speaking some serious truth.

There are no real commentators at AFL, cricket or BBL games. Hilarious.

Seriously deluded and if you think the corona virus will take more than a year to get back to normal you clearly must be a Doctor of some repute and know what no one else in the world knows

Spain and Italy have over 100 million people between them, compared to Australia’s 25 million. They are also a race of people that hug and kiss a lot so obviously they would get a greater spread and higher death toll than Australia. They live closer together as well. Germany has been able to keep a lot less due to partly due to their non hugging less personal greetings and off course a better health system. There is a lot time before next season here and there but if both Australia and Europe get back to playing basketball around the same time and the money is better in the big euro market good players aren’t hanging around Australia.
The league has taken a great step forward but it would be a shame if it went backwards. A 50% cut to $700g salary cap isn’t going to keep good players here if they can get work elsewhere.

Whilst there have been trajic deaths in Australia it pales in comparison to Europe, especially Italy and Spain. It's finally getting better due to people taking it seriously and restrictions governments have placed on the public. But all it takes is for restrictions to relax and a couple of morons to head to their local Aldi and a chain reaction starts again. Sure, that can happen in Australia but with a sparser population we're statistically better off.
Can get better money in Europe, but I think the classic saying, you can't take it with you when you die is pretty apt.
Who here if head office rings and says you've got a promotion if you want it but have to head to Madrid, who takes it. I'll be staying in little old Adelaide, wouldn't even move to Sydney.

So it will take more than a year to get business back to normal? Idiot right there.

Other than Singapore who have tightened restrictions most countries will probably start to ease them in next six weeks.

Pretty sure the players people are talking about are still O/S!

Tell us KR where are these Aussie players from EU now living?

in fact you may lose a few.

To where?

Why is it safer ?

The better players last 10 years, the not so good around 5, players will chase the money or might as well get a 9 to 5 job. Other than Singapore who have tightened restrictions most countries will probably start to ease them in next six weeks.

Australia is in the best position, breakers might have to set up here in Aus for a while though.

Yes, I'm sure a bunch of players will be keen to swim over to some of the worst-affected countries in the world so they can earn all that magic money that somehow wasn't affected by the economic impacts of the shutdowns in leagues that will play in front of no crowds and function by teleporting players to each venue.

Motum the scrotum

#119 see#118

The big euro leagues are run and owned by billionaires, while the sport is not on the same level as football in most countries, some Lithuania for example its number one, it is still very popular in all others. Europe won’t be closed down for ever and already in Spain and Italy the restrictions are lifting. There comps start late September so still time for lots to happen.

Players like Landale are not coming hear to play for two thirds of what they can get overseas. Creek is another that could earn more there if they decide to cut his wage in half. There are others.

in fact you may lose a few.

One or two might come back, the rest your dreaming. If the nbl salary cap is $700000 you aren’t attracting any body, in fact you may lose a few. You can still have your marquee players and what ever other dodgey deals there is but when you start paying tax for it over 700g it leaves not a lot you can do.

Brandt, Adel, Broekhoff, Humphries, Reath, salt, Fotu, Webster are some of the other guys who can come back.

might as well scrub that by-law of no transfers during season.

everyone is doing what they want anyway and enforcing will just piss people off and quit if they can't get what they want.

couple of divisions just holding on to existence at present