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NBL players vote on tiered salary cuts

If player X is on 400g and elects out of his contract and signs overseas to only find it’s a no go or he gets cut early and returns to Australia to find his side has no spots left can he sign at another club ? Or can his original club stop him going elsewhere except overseas.

aighhht

I'm talking about international borders, not state borders.

@ Alpha
You are 100% write, but koberulz knows everything so you are wasting your time though I enjoy reading your posts. :)

those, who felt symptoms or were in contact with someone who was sick, self reported and were/are tested for the virus and if positive self isolated.

large gatherings are the last restriction likely to go.

Morrison might tell you the schools are not shut but Victoria closed, nsw had no one turning up including Morrison kids and teachers were 90% teaching from home. Other states ran on similar lines.

There is no treatment. You can invest in whatever you like, it makes no difference.

Again some posters on here should do a bit travelling, Germany is a very organised country that invests heavily in its hospitals and population, no luck to it.

Germany is one of the countries with a high rate and number of infected, yet very low hospitalization and mortality rates, which means they are able to control it.

No, my point is that reopening things we haven't closed isn't a sign that they're ahead of us.

Your point is that the world is going to end and we will be locked up for years, I’m an optimist and I can see daylight. Hopefully sooner rather than later.

You completely missed my point.

I don’t watch afl. I’m certain if things start to open up they’ll be back playing though.

Schools never even shut here, does the AFL look like it's running to you?

Germany starting to open as early as next week, sport is starting up again I’m August. Schools opening next week on a year sis and twelve first and then following all classes. Even if Europe stays with closed boarders all the local leagues will start up.
All subject to obviously staying under control.

I tend to agree with Alpha regarding what will happen in Europe.
There is still a heap to be learned about Covid and more data comes in every week, but right now if I had to guess I'm leaning towards the top European leagues (many of which coincide with the hardest-hit countries like Spain, France & Italy) being up and running this coming season somewhat close to their normal schedules.
I'm staying hopeful about the NBL too.

As for salaries, Europe seems even more reliant than us on corporate dollars, which must have taken a fair hit with many of their main sponsors being airlines, hotel groups, etc. Signings for next season have already started so I guess someone out there must know if the usual amount of dollars are being dished out.

Hopefully everything will work out, challenging times.

Not a lot information there, certainly re salary cap.

If player X is on $150g, can the club still choose to pay him $150, it seems unfair that contracted players got take a reduction but if you don’t have a contract you can still get what club is willing to pay.

Let’s use Goulding here as example, if he was on $400g , he should go to $200g but if let’s say Adelaide come in and offer $300g can United match it if that’s the case it’s a good time to be a free agent and if you’re contracted you would think it’s a restriction of trade while your wage gets cut by a %.

Lot gaps in this.

https://nbl.com.au/news/nbl-abpa-and-clubs-reach-agreement-for-202021-season

It's official. But no details about salary cap or floor. Hard cap vs soft.

The players seem ok with it but we will see as there is a 2 week opt out period.

Don’t see any sports starting this year at all, it’s just reality

@ koberulz
Maybe get your head out of the Murdoch press and watch sbs news, you might find there’s more than fear out there.

When you're ready to come back to reality let me know.

Nothing involving teams from multiple countries will run.

Some lower division sides will struggle but Europe first division sides will be in it if the lock downs are lifted.

Euro money will be down but clearly more than what Australia is paying now.

@ Alpha
Clearly said that the virus would stay around but will be managed. Maybe read what he said and go from there. Euro money will be down but clearly more than what Australia is paying now. Some of the Asian countries will even pay better.

Why do people keep arguing that the virus will go away because the restrictions are too inconvenient?

Newsflash, people: the virus doesn't give a shit.

I just heard the news of the players salary cuts, roster cuts to only 10 players & only 2 imports each NBL team. :(

Next season will be far the lowest talent I’ll watch this season if we have a season?

I just heard the news of the players salary cuts, roster cuts to only 10 players & only 2 imports each NBL team. :(

Next season will be far the lowest talent I’ll watch this season if we have a season?

Most countries will be on the same footing as Australia, every country wants to get sport going. Yes Australia is potentially safer but if a pro player see a fair bit more money he’ll take the risk in what is a short time frame to make the coin.

It is possible we could lose talents like Kay, Cotton, Ware, Trimble, Long, Creek, Hopson etc to Europe if the conditions are there, being :

- The virus settles down or a vaccine developed in months.
- Borders open in months.
- Euro leagues open.
- Euro leages can continue to pay high.

There's a few ifs there but it is not out of the questions at all.

Another interesting point in the leaked tidbits is that players have a short window to opt out of their current contracts. But their NBL rights are attained by their respective teams should they not be able to find contracts outside of the NBL.

That window is too small for them to make a proper informed decision.

They would have to leave or now commit to the NBL.

There won't even be leagues overseas, never mind money.

Not to mention the borders are closed.

The economy worldwide will be in the toilet. Less money here, less money overseas.

Because it's hoops.com.au

Australia is one of the best countries in the world in terms of the pandemic, and even our league is a maybe. Why is everyone acting like there are going to be all these overseas leagues?

Not to mention the border closures.

No one really knows what happening but the nbl had better be careful because basketball is a world sport with lots of leagues and players will be getting there agents to see what’s out there if the money gets to low. Perth will be lucky to hang onto Kay with what he’s on, let at all halving his wage.

The G League- he could command 120k US so that's about the same in AUD and he might get some 10 day contracts!

Where else is he going to go?

I can't see Bryce, sticking around for 200k instead of his 500k+ contract!

The level of imports might not be the best for next season!

Because they need something in place so free agency can start. It says there will be a review in three months.

The NBL season doesn't start for another 5 months. Why would it be forcing this on the players? And who are the delegates of each that would accept this on behalf of the players?

NBL just now:

"Salaries for players earning under $79,000 will revert to the minimum salary capped at $58,584."

Interestingly there is a $1000 gap between each tier.

Boguts tweet:

Have to love @NBL club delegates who are suppose to take a confidentiality oath, leaking this to media through what I assume is an agent. Those who leaked (have a well educated guess on which few judging on previous form) don’t deserve to be delegates. #bushleague

Any idea what exactly he means by this & who he’s referring to as the possible leakers?

I feel like it's super important we form strong opinions about this now, based only on a leaked broad outline, before any of the details actually come out.

If you earn 120g you will end up with less than the player on 119g. The whole thing is a farce. Make it a flat 15% across the league. If you’re on more than 200g maybe make it slightly less but not so the are below the 200g guy minus 20%.

Is this like tax where your earnings are scaled for each step? Or do you actually lose money if you earn 100k instead of 99k?

Something is not right re the salary cap, certainly if team have to get with in 90% of it. Looks like clubs can pick and choose who they want to cut.

I assume it's a typo.

Injury protection against career-ending injuries will be capped at $150,000 for the 2020-21 season, sources said, while contracts will resume as normal for the start of the 2020-21 season. The NBL salary cap will remain.