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McCarron and Lual-Acuil test positive for COVID-19

So drink driving is fine according to that logic.

In a population of 90 million, Vietnam has 1 covid death. Their obesity rate is 2.1%.

Locking down healthy people - which is the vast majority - to protect to minority of people who are vulnerable to the virus, is completely over the top, and basically a stupid strategy.

Thanks to all the anti mask wearing xenophobic flogs telling us how the transmission of a global pandemic is all fake news.....
I thought this was a basketball forum but turns out its a meeting of qualified epidemiologists.
Hope Mitch and Joe get well

#835

There are heaps and heaps of doctors and immunologists and epidermilogists and scientists saying the same as me.

Dr ioannidis and Dr Simone Gold to name some

#833

Yes I know. Just trying to help some people out. Challenge them to think a bit differently. Time to move on, I agree.

Alpha

Wise man once said long before covid "data will set you free".

Last thought - woke up this morning to news of man travelling from NZ to Australia tested for corona. There was one last week NZ to South Korea. It's inevitable to come to NZ.

I believe in low cost avoidance. Stay home from work when sick - yes. Lockdown - no.

Put another way. Look before you cross the road - yes. Hide under bed - no.

Let's play basketball guys. Athletes have a limited window.

Like I keep saying. 0.05% die. Mostly fat old people with other health problems.

We would be better to get people to improve their diet and life style than costly and pointless lockdown. And spend the $50 bill on something worthwhile.

Let's play some bball instead.

Alpha - you remind me of the lawyer on The Castle, Dennis Denuto. "It's the law". "It's the vibe".

50 billion NZ dollars on lockdown


We can't keep drugs out of NZ. How do you think we are going to keep a virus out that no one can see and has no symptoms and only 0.05?% die.

You've been brainwashed, but relax my friend, You are in good company. Plenty of others have also.

The dying words of the 30 year old of an American who went to covid party to prove bigdog and his ilk correct. “ I “ made a bad decision there.

The mighty USA is on its knees because of idiots in society ignorance.

NZ on the other hand have taught us all a lesson.

That 1/4 Melbournians should be charged.

Seriously bro, look up the stats. Come out from under your bed.

The modelling was all wrong. It's not that bad.

People arent idiots for not going into isolation. They just see things differently to you. Why should they lock themselves up. Covid-19 spreading is inevitable.

Nothing to fear.

650k. A dubious figure. 96% have "other" serious ailments. The median age of death is 84.

Besides, 650k is a rounding error.

Not worth getting knickers in a twist.

StatsMan - good idea. Hopefully they're working on something like this as a back up plan.

https://www.9news.com.au/national/coronavirus-victoria-one-in-four-positive-covid19-cases-not-self-isolating-daniel-andrews/f47901b5-9fcf-4610-83d0-102ac5760498

I had to check as I was hoping that FM was wrong about 1 in 4 positive people, unfortunately I gave Victorians way too much credit.

You would hope covid caused some ongoing damage, given the flap everyone is in.

It certainly doesn't kill enough people to warrant it.

Also no evidence at this point that people are immune once they've recovered

Stats Man.
There is to much sense in your proposal for anyone to do it. Great idea.

Must be all those minority groups I've seen on the news confronting Bunnings staff about not having to wear a mask. Oh wait...

We don't know what the long term effects of covid-19 are, even for those with mild/asymptomatic cases: https://www.smh.com.au/national/more-signs-covid-19-leaves-long-lasting-mark-on-the-heart-20200728-p55g4f.html

NBL referee panel is approx 22 with 2 in NSW and 5 in Vic

And what qualifications do you have to decipher such research? I'd suggest minimal and all the leading medical minds across the world are wrong and all in on the same scam. smh

You watch they will recover the same way as people with the flu does.

Mortality rate is about 0.5%

Imagine getting all upset over something that kills 0.5%, and most people don't even know they have it. Irrational.

The contingency plan is that they would bubble the players and they would play in an empty stadium

With Goorgian back and Gleeson still hear, both hawks and cats don’t need refs as these two do there own reffing.

#795 good point I forgot VIC never eased restrictions.

The date is significant in that they won’t have an impact on a December 3 start to the season you moron. If they tested positive 30 November then it would be a serious concern in relation to the season starting.

Who cares

Covid cases don't mean jack.

Hardly anyone dies. They'll be fine.

Total beat up

Did these two go out clubbing after the first lockdown? What internal policies do NBL clubs have in relation to this?

It's July 29. Season is slated for December 3. Play the first month away from NSW/Vic. It's not out of medical forecasting that this will be achievable. Glass is half full not half empty

For now. If the border gets forced open we'll be in serious trouble.

i am waiting for an outbreak in Adelaide after the Port AFL game last week when there were thousand crammed in with no social distancing or even masks.

Exactly ^^

Yes the loss of revenue will be acute, but they may well be in a situation where "some revenue" is better than "no revenue".

Bubble won't work for the NBL. Change my mind.

The contingency plan is that they would bubble the players and they would play in an empty stadium. Not sure they have any other choice for Melbourne teams. Yes, they can't survive off TV, but the alternative is the players sit and the league drops two teams for a season. Maybe the Melbourne clubs can choose.

Wouldn't surprise me if we have Melbourne-scale outbreaks hit other states at any point in the next few months also.

No, this is why a "bubble" won't work, since they have brought the virus in from elsewhere. It's why I was mazed they were allowed to continue training.

Nor does it require a hub.
My daughter is in Melbourne, she is doing it tough. Her friends have Corona, and she is in isolation on her own. People are dying, so my heartfelt prayers and sympathy go out to the people of Melbourne.
And yes, honestly, if we miss out on a bit of NBL, well there are far worse things happening.

But, hypothetically, if Melbourne were to be the only problem, then relocating two teams is not a huge problem. Send one to Hobart and one to Launceston, try to drum up a bit of NBL buzz, and the league can continue.

Yes the loss of revenue will be acute, but they may well be in a situation where "some revenue" is better than "no revenue".

If instead you wanted to front-load their season with away-games, then I suppose relocate them somewhere central for training purposes.

And remember, these are basketballers, the idea of leaving family and travelling the world to play is nothing new. They're not a bunch of Victorian footballers who cry every time they have to leave mummy.

I reiterate it is July 29. Breathe people.

OK, front load the season for the Melbourne teams... but you're talking about saving weeks whilst we are still months out from the season. The NBL needs a contingency plan but its gotta be better than front loading a season. The NBL needs fans showing up to games in Victoria.

Yeah, I think frontload their road games and otherwise have them in a bubble with minimal or no crowd. Might not have much choice.

Find a small to medium size town for the hub, it will be more cost effective and small limited number of spectators could be allowed in. Maybe Canberra, Gold Coast or Newcastle.

Apparently they did door knocks in Vic today and 29 ppl infected with COVID weren't home to answer...

The majority of revenue comes from tickets. Hubs wont work for the NBL.

Hubs only work because of the TV deals.

They will move the Melbourne teams to a hub.

That is the obvious answer isn't it. Not hard to see?! Very likely they'll play in hubs just like the AFL. SEM and United will be flown to a hub. Isolate for 14 days then begin the season.

Doesn't take a genius to see that's how it will work.

People, it's July 29. Get a grip.

This is what really has me concerned about the NBL season. Victoria is basically a basketcase at the moment with covid-19, the AFL can afford to relocate the Vic teams and not play in Melbourne anymore however the NBL likely couldn't.

We're about to hit August so only four months until the NBL season is due to start I just can't see it being all cleared up with full stadiums by then.

yooooooooooooooooooo WA open the borderzzzzzzzzzzzz pls

Well this is just terrible.

Hope no one else in Melbourne gets this and these 2 a speedy recovery.

Goodbye Melbourne it's been nice.
Hope you find your paradise.

Perth Wildcats GM is in the USA visiting many NBA clubs on a fact finding mission.

Very good article below, well worth a read.

The Perth Wildcats professionalism in everyway, is far superior to every other NBL club.

The other seven NBL clubs really need to take a very close look at what Perth are doing.

I hope Nick Marvin and Jack Bendat are part of the new NBL board.

Take a look here:
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/-/basketball/17207037/wildcats-head-to-us-to-see-how-to-turn-on-the-style/