

I understand that perfection will never occur - I wasn't being pedantic, only trying to make sense of my situation [:)] but it is hard to accept that a 3 second delay occurs between hearing a referee's whistle, and pressing down the finger which has been on the button and is poised to do so at the call of said whistle, and everyone on both sides of the bench immeadately looks up and watches time continue to tick down. This is not sour grapes, let me set this straight - I've seen it happen too many times in close finals over the past 12 or so years I've been involved.
Of course human error exists - but at the same token, I do believe refs who've been trained to know the rules properly should man the clocks during finals - they used to do it when I played social back in U10s and U12s etc at my local stadium, I don't see why they can't do it when they only use one stadium (Thursday) or two stadiums (Friday - not sure about Saturdays) for the preliminary finals.
I NEVER said I don't believe that there are good enough refs to go around AT ALL. Although I can easily state that when the more experienced/better referees are umpiring, there is less controversy - its a learning ground, it is understood! I don't know where you got that from - all I've stated in this post is that there has seemed to be some sort of directive to allow play to 'continue' inside the paint - calls that had been made consistently throughout the season were not called throughout the 4 finals games I have undertaken (with 1 more still to come), leaving me to think it is too much of a coincidence.
Anyway rant over, I'll shuddup now (which Deano will agree is an improvement).

Chopping their arm in, that's interesting, thanks for that. I can remember in one particular scenario that I'm referring to that the ref didn't have his arm up because I noticed he was playing with his whistle, but I'm unsure of the others!
Personally, I believe the refs should control the clock for situations where it has to STOP, because they 'dont watch the clock' - unbiased referees one would assume would be able to stop the clock at the correct point.

Let me know, I'm more than willing to be taught the proper rules, considering I'm probably going to restart refereeing again. From what I've seen in games (played, coached, watched and told by refs), the clock doesn't start when you pass it in (ie from the baseline after a foul) until a player touches it. Is that wrong? Jirachi, Grey Area? Might explain a bit if it was!

It's just weird that in the 4 finals games I've particpated in as a player and coach, as well as the numerous ones I've watched, that there seems to be ALOT of calls being 'let go' inside the paint.
My point was that not all parents understand the clock rules - ie clock not switched on till ball is touched by a player, 'clock stops when whistle goes' (hmm). Would it be logical for refs not rostered on for the game (number permitting) to work the clock during Finals to stop posts like this and indiscretions from happening?

I wasnt directly baggin the referee's, the point i was trying to get across was perhaps different combinations of referees should have done the games they deserved, and some of the referees that missed out perhaps should have got games.
Im all for younger referees getting opportunities if their ready as this is a good way to help develop them, but at the same time caution must be taken to which games these referees get.

I'mnot having a go at the parents at all. Refs HAVE to be aware of the clock situation.

Did someone tell the refs in the finals that post players were to be fouled as much as possible before calling anything?
Any maybe all those refs not reffing could control the clock - some shocking timing decisions last night were seen at the Dome.

"Lol huskies were terrible to watch in NZ" So did you see them play in Hoart? I guess not.
